Witch Burnings in Africa

[Ronja]

I will just leave this here for Seth when he gets back

Might be a bit of a wait - I've nailed his coffin shut

We nailed you to a tree, poked you in the guts with a stick and then stuck your corpse in a cave then stuck a boulder in front of it and it didn't stop your bullshit, Cheezy. What makes you think it'll work for Set?

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[Jesus_of_Nazareth]

you've got a point..............

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"Set the Destroyer". Works for me.

[Tyrannical]

Thank God for Salem, else we'd be crawling in witches too!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Thank God for Salem, else we'd be crawling in witches too!

It had to be done by somebody, and it came to pass that it was Salem's Lot to be the town that did it.

[Seth]

I will just leave this here for Seth when he gets back

Say his name three times and he'll be here.

I was never really gone. I've got to remember to insult someone whenever I need to write a column...Or I need a 12-step program to recover from Ratz addiction.

[Seth]

They are just following their preferred holy book - in particular the bit about 'thou shalt not suffer a witch to live' (Exodus 22:18).

They aren't Christians. Christians are followers of Christ, who never suggested that anyone burn anyone else. In fact, he said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Among other statements, none of which suggest killing other people.

These are just ignorant savages who are misusing Christianity to achieve their own objectives.

For you to lump all Christians in with such barbarity is bigoted, prejudiced and unreasoned hatred.

What utter bullshit. They're Christians following their ugly fucking contradictory central book just like they did in inquisition times and nothing - nothing at all - was said about all "all" Xians, even though this crap happens century after fucking century after fucking century. Cunts. That's not hatred, that's truth. And it's ridiculous to point out that somehow "all" Christians are like this or not... just those that adhere to that shit book the way many, many others have over time. However, I'll acknowledge for your sensibilities that I'm virtually certain that my brother doesn't burn witches.

So, can we never recognize that the Nazis killed Jews, atheists and more, just because "all Nazis" didn't actively participate? Now go invoke Godwin and fuck off. Then again, the Nazis were Christian. Funny that, in an ugly sort of way.

No, you fuck off. Nazism had killing jews as a central objective of the party, so it's perfectly reasonable to say that all Nazis are inhuman animals, But it's no more appropriate to say that the savages in Africa who misuse Christianity to justify such horrific acts than it is to say that all atheists are evil, debased inhuman scum of the earth because atheists like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot murdered a hundred million people in the name of atheism.

But mindless Atheist bigots who are intellectually incapable of distinguishing between an evil act done in the name of a belief and the vast majority of believers in that belief who do not perpetrate evil acts are scum right down there in the cesspool of insane hatred and bigotry with the neo-Nazis, the KKK and the Taliban.

I'm lately finding a lot of this sort of mentally deficient, insanely deranged Atheists infesting various nooks and crannies of the Internet. The only good news is that I'm enjoying smoking them out so they reveal themselves, and their own words can be used against them in the court of public opinion. The other good news is that they are generally too stupid to realize the damage they do to the cause of atheism and secularism with their hateful rhetoric, so they make perfect examples of exactly why all atheists should forever be mistrusted, reviled, marginalized and kept from positions of power and authority.

So, in a way, I owe them some small measure of gratitude for being so obviously insane.

It's always better to know your enemy and be able to identify him.

[Ian]

The sheer stupidity of your post is exceeded only by its hatred.

Not all of Christianity is barbaric and ignorant, and not all Christians are barbaric and ignorant. In fact, I'd say most today are not. But for those that are, their beliefs are well-rooted in the tenets of their religion. They can be found in writing, in the Bible, and many of them are not remotely ambiguous or subject to peaceful interpretations.

And what is atheism, exactly? There are no tenets, no established dogma, no sets of principles to be found in writing anywhere. Not trusting atheism makes no sense, since atheism isn't a word that even deserves to exist. There is no "ism" to speak of. So Seth, you're griping about nothing but your own paranoia.

[Seth]

The sheer stupidity of your post is exceeded only by its hatred.

Now there's a pot calling the kettle black if ever I heard it.

Not all of Christianity is barbaric and ignorant, and not all Christians are barbaric and ignorant.

Indeed.

In fact, I'd say most today are not.

I'd agree.

But for those that are, their beliefs are well-rooted in the tenets of their religion. They can be found in writing, in the Bible, and many of them are not remotely ambiguous or subject to peaceful interpretations.

Well, so long as one carefully distinguishes between those savages who use such excuses to injure others, I have no beef. But when, as is usual around here, someone decides to vilify and attack all Christians without any boundaries or limits on the width of the tar-brush for the acts of the deranged few I like to do exactly the same thing to atheists using Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot as examples of barbaric, cruel, inhuman and evil Atheists with whom I can lump all atheists as an example of the insanity and ethically-corrupt unreason and insanity of doing it to billions of innocent Christians.

It's the old sauce-goose-gander gambit. You dish it, you get to take it too, and I'll be here to call Atheists every low insult I can think of as payback.

And what is atheism, exactly? There are no tenets, no established dogma, no sets of principles to be found in writing anywhere.

Wrong.

Not trusting atheism makes no sense, since atheism isn't a word that even deserves to exist. There is no "ism" to speak of. So Seth, you're griping about nothing but your own paranoia.

Nice try, but Atheism is as Atheism does, and quite literally every one of the explicit atheists found in every atheist forum is a member of a religion whose beliefs and practices are based in vileness, mindless hatred, bigotry, prejudice, and irrational deranged obsession with religion, particularly Christianity and most specifically Catholicism. The set of beliefs is clear and obvious and the fervor, dedication and faith with which these Atheists cling to those beliefs and practice the tenets of their institutionalized and easily recognized religious zealotry and intolerance exceeds in many cases the most zealous actions of the most fundamentalist theists that ever existed.

[Ian]

No, you're just projecting your own fears upon a group of people you don't consider yourself to be a part of. This is something bigoted people tend to do - depending on who you ask, atheists are hedonists, nihilists, freethinkers, mindless, open-minded, bigoted, communists, anarchists, blah blah blah... Well, "we" can't be all of the above. Many of those things are mutually exclusive.

You've got your own set of beliefs about what atheists are. Others have other sets. So don't go telling us that we're all factually wrong. It's all your own opinions, and they're loaded with anger and prejudice. You're throwing insult after blanket accusation after insult on this thread.

[Robert_S]

Catholics deserve more hatred because they have strong influences from pagan religions. Pagans are the ones who shut down the Ionian Flowering and I'll never forgive them that.

[Seth]

No, you're just projecting your own fears upon a group of people you don't consider yourself to be a part of. This is something bigoted people tend to do - dending on who you ask, atheists are hedonists, nihilists, freethinkers, mindless, open-minded, bigoted, communists, anarchists, blah blah blah... Well, "we" can't be all of the above. Many of those things are mutually exclusive.

You've got your own set of beliefs about what atheists are. Others have other sets. So don't go telling us that we're all factually wrong.

Buddy boy, as long as Atheists consider themselves free to hurl insults at good people I'll feel free to tell you whatever the fuck I feel like telling you, so get used to it.

It's all your own opinions, and they're loaded with anger and prejudice. You're throwing insult after blanket accusation after insult on this thread.

Indeed. And deliberately so. Can you guess why I'm doing so? It should be easy, since I've stated it pretty plainly. I'm just using Atheist tactics against Atheists because I find it useful to play the game of rhetorical excess against Atheists as a mirror of the sort of disgusting, cruel, inhumane, bigoted, prejudiced and hateful rhetorical excess routinely directed against people of faith by Atheist religious zealots.

I'm pretty sick of the manifested bigotry and hatred against all people of faith I see every day and I'm determined to turn the tables by way of demonstrating just how sick and vile those opinions actually are. So, I reflect the vileness I see to make a point.

The point being that Atheists are more cruel, vile, inhumane, hateful, spiteful, debased, deranged, bigoted and prejudiced than anyone they presume to attack with their vile opinions and rhetoric and it's my duty to reveal them for what they truly are. It's my way of revealing the feet of clay and the depth of their hypocrisy and unreason.

Now, should someone decide to stop being vile and disgusting and show some genuine interest in a civilized debate rather than a "throw shit at theists" flame-fest, I'll be happy to moderate my rhetoric.

But from now on, whenever this sort of vile attack on the vast majority of good, kind, honest, loving people of faith occurs, I'm going to point out just how vile and disgusting Atheists are and why it's just, reasonable and rational to revile them, marginalize them, and keep them from positions of power and authority by whatever means necessary.

If Atheists want to dish it out, they'll have to get used to taking it up the ass as well, because I'm sick and tired of all the fine people I know who happen to be Christians being maligned by the likes of them. They are far better people than quite literally any Atheist I've ever met, who are universally intolerant, bigoted, hateful assholes full of themselves but empty of wit, intelligence, love, compassion, respect or any other positive human attribute.

Maybe someday I'll find an exception to that rule, but based on the rhetoric seen here, I doubt it. Which is pretty sad really.

[Ian]

I'm an atheist. Have you seen me throwing blanket accusations against all Christians?

Your excuses are terrible. "Those people engage in bigotry and despicable behavior, therefore I can too." Well, that's a very low sort of thinking. Especially since "those people" are a remarkably diverse group of people, many of whom don't do anything remotely like what you're accusing. I can only deduce that your opinions are based largely on paranoia rather than genuine experience.

You're calling atheists "universally" this and that - which only proves your own bigotry. Shame on you.

The sad one here is you. So much anger and intolerance. Not all Christians, not all Catholics - I'm just addressing you.

[Svartalf]

Catholics deserve more hatred because they have strong influences from pagan religions. Pagans are the ones who shut down the Ionian Flowering and I'll never forgive them that.

What's the "Ionian Flowering"?

[Seth]

I'm an atheist. Have you seen me throwing blanket accusations against all Christians?

Can't tell, all Atheists look and sound alike.

Your excuses are terrible.

Wah.

"Those people engage in bigotry and despicable behavior, therefore I can too." Well, that's a very low sort of thinking.

Nah, it's just a mirror. It's intended to demonstrate just how despicable such tactics are by making Atheists the target, so they can get to know how it feels.

Especially since "those people" are a remarkably diverse group of people, many of whom don't do anything remotely like what you're accusing. I can only deduce that your opinions are based largely on paranoia rather than genuine experience.

Gee, that sounds exactly like something I was saying about Christians. Imagine that, my tactic is working!

You're calling atheists "universally" this and that - which only proves your own bigotry. Shame on you.

Hey, sauce, goose, gander. I don't see ANYONE else here defending the good people of Christianity against the sort of vile accusations being levied here, so I'm on my own and I choose to do unto them as they do unto my personal friends. You don't like it? Well, doesn't it just suck to be you. Now you know how it feels. Get used to it.

The sad one here is you. So much anger and intolerance. Not all Christians, not all Catholics - I'm just addressing you.

Actually, all the anger and intolerance you are seeing is just a mirrored reflection of the anger and intolerance that's displayed here by others, posted as a part of my agenda to stick Atheist bigotry right up the Atheist's asses by insulting them just as much as they insult my friends. And I'm addressing everyone here.

Don't like it? Then quit insulting Christians. Turnabout is fair play.