Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:28 pm

I wonder if Democrats voting in the Republican primary had any impact on the result?



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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Tyrannical » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:48 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:I wonder if Democrats voting in the Republican primary had any impact on the result?
More likely Independents, Democrats would have to change party. Of course you can't win an election without the Independent vote.
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Post by drl2 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:35 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:I wonder if Democrats voting in the Republican primary had any impact on the result?
More likely Independents, Democrats would have to change party.
That varies from state to state - here in Delaware you have to be registered with a party to vote in its primary, but in some places it's essentially an open vote.
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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:58 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:I wonder if Democrats voting in the Republican primary had any impact on the result?
More likely Independents, Democrats would have to change party. Of course you can't win an election without the Independent vote.
Yes, but the Democrats didn't need to vote in a primary this year because Obama was unopposed, and New Hampshire allowed one to change parties on the day of voting in the primary...

...if I were a Democrat, I would want all the Democrats to vote for the craziest one out there.....and the consensus seems to be, on the Democrat side, that Paul fits that bill....

I've established motive and opportunity...if only there was evidence that the deed was actually done...

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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:01 pm

Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX), a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, can celebrate two victories Wednesday. Mr. Paul is tied with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich for 2nd place at the national level among Republicans and Independents, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday. Mr. Paul and Mr. Gingrich pulled in 17 percent of the votes each, while former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney garnered 29 percent of the votes.

Read more: http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/ ... z1jBJDYfjm
Paul is rising in the National polls too. Slow and steady unlike the flavors of the month :prof:
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Post by Warren Dew » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:14 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:...if I were a Democrat, I would want all the Democrats to vote for the craziest one out there.....and the consensus seems to be, on the Democrat side, that Paul fits that bill....
I knew some Democrats who claimed to have voted for Reagan in the Republican primary based on that logic.

In the case of Paul, any Democrats voting for him probably actually prefer him to Obama.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:49 pm

Newt Gingrich scandal -- http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... print.html

A woman scorned... http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive ... d=15392899

Damn - he was a cold hearted bastard! LOL.

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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:54 pm

Balderdash, if the likes of Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton or the bushes could serve, so can Newt.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:04 pm

Hallelujah, Rick Perry no longer is a problem... Now lets get rid of witch component and felch gravy.
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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:13 pm

Svartalf wrote:Balderdash, if the likes of Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton or the bushes could serve, so can Newt.
Oh, I'm sure he can, but he was still a bit cold-hearted to his wife...damn!

And, what did Lincoln or Reagan, or the Bushes or Nixon do that was similar to this?

Kennedy was a sexaholic apparently, and Clinton had serious allegations of rape that the media covered up before his election. Clinton was a pretty good President, and Kennedy didn't live long enough to know one way or the other (his legacy benefited from his assassination).

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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:15 pm

I was comparing his lack of moral fiber to that of previous holders of the post.

I certainly wouldn't want that bastard within 300 miles of Pennsylvania Avenue...
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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:22 pm

The more I hear about Ron Paul, the more I like about the cut of his jib.


There's nobody in this world that could possibly attack us today... we could defend this country with a few good submarines. If anybody dared touch us we could wipe any country off of the face of the earth within hours. And here we are, so intimidated and so insecure and we're acting like such bullies that we have to attack third-world nations that have no military and have no weapons.

There really is nothing for us to win in Afghanistan. Our mission has morphed from apprehending those who attacked us, to apprehending those who threaten or dislike us for invading their country, to remaking an entire political system and even a culture … This is an expensive, bloody, endless exercise in futility. Not everyone is willing to admit this just yet. But every second they spend in denial has real costs in lives and livelihoods … Many of us can agree on one thing, however. Our military spending in general has grown way out of control.

Our foreign military aid to Israel is actually more like corporate welfare to the U.S. military industrial complex, as Israel is forced to purchase only U.S. products with the assistance. We send almost twice as much aid to other countries in the Middle East, which only insures increased militarization and the drive toward war.



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Re: Predictions: Who will be the GOP Candidate?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:57 pm

Svartalf wrote:I was comparing his lack of moral fiber to that of previous holders of the post.

I certainly wouldn't want that bastard within 300 miles of Pennsylvania Avenue...
Yes, well, he was a big reason the budget was a surplus at the end of the 1990's -- we hear that lauded quite a bit, and credited to Clinton. However, it was Clinton acceding to the Republican congress that took over in 1994 that really got it done.

This is a new time, though, and Newt doesn't have the media on his side. They would never do what they did for Clinton, when the rape allegations surfaced in 1992. They literally sat on the story until after the election. Here, the media is going to skewer Gingrich. In a sense, Newt deserves a skewering because he at least obliquely moralizes to others about values and morals, and now he's all-fired Catholic too. Three wives - open marriages - fucking his mistress on his wife's bed.

I mean - cheating isn't the capital offense here - that's horrible, and many folks have done it in their lives. But, there is cheating, and then there is leaving wet spots for your wife to sleep in....

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