Warren Dew wrote:Ian wrote:Oh, there's plenty of information beyond what they say. I thought Sandi's article was interesting.
But... there's one critical piece of information missing, and nobody here has it: what was said in private between Bahrain's leaders and American diplomats a few days ago.
You still don't get it. Your "critical" piece of information is still just stuff people are saying. You're still failing to examine information beyond that, which is why you're only able to speculate when I can see the conclusion clearly.
You're apparently not bothering to read what I write. Read it this time, because I can't spoon-feed it any simpler for you: I
haven't been trying to examine any information beyond the public statements. In fact, I'm
not trying to examine it at all on this thread. In other words,
I'm not speculating anything. I've simply been taking issue with the fact that you said "the US is supporting a Saudi invasion of Bahrain." That is inaccurate because publicly, the US is doing no such thing. And if you have a shred of intellectual honesty, you'll realize that your "conclusion" is nothing more than your own best guess. Your best guess does not equate to The Truth.
That's piss-poor analysis. A good analyst is plagued by doubts. You're convinced of your conclusion despite not having a vital piece of information.
Guess what? If you're going to press me for my own speculation, then I'll finally give it:
it's about the same as yours!
IMO, the Obama administration did
not privately request that Bahrain not crack down on protesters. US influence may be limited, but Obama probably gave a tacit go-ahead to get rid of the protesters. US interests there are for stability above all, but the Obama administration can't publicly advocate what Bahrain is doing, so it's not. But do I know for sure that the American envoy didn't privately request restraint?
No, I don't know that for sure. And neither do you! Neither of us were there.
Warren Dew wrote:klr wrote:The UN Security Council has just passed a vote to allow air strikes against Gaddafi and Co. 10 for, 5 abstentions. Watch this space ...
So, Ian, where's the resolution to put a no fly zone over Bahrain?
Why are you asking me? Apparently it's because you had been thinking I was in favor of what Bahrain is doing. That ain't the case at all.