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Post by Seabass » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:39 am

Another Trump "accomplishment"! Inciting homegrown terrorism!
California man charged with threatening to kill Boston Globe employees
“You’re the enemy of the people, and we’re going to kill every f------ one of you,” said man accused of making 14 threatening calls to the newspaper.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ca ... es-n905081

A California man charged with threatening to kill employees of The Boston Globe had 20 guns in his home when it was searched, federal officials said Thursday.

Robert Chain, 68, from Encino, allegedly made 14 threatening phone calls to the paper from Aug. 10 through Aug. 22, at one point telling the paper that it was "the enemy of the people." He is charged with one count of making threatening communications in interstate commerce.

In federal court in Los Angeles Thursday, Chain heard a reading of the allegations and told Judge Paul L. Abrams he understood them. He was freed on $50,000 bond and ordered to stay away from guns and from the Boston Globe.

Chain purchased a 9 mm carbine rifle in May, according to the criminal complaint. Prosecutors said in court that authorities who searched his home found firearms everywhere, including by the front door, where a shotgun with shells was discovered.

"In a time of increasing political polarization, and amid the increasing incidence of mass shootings, members of the public must police their own political rhetoric. Or we will," Andrew Lelling, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Massachusetts, said in a statement.

Chain was expected to face federal allegations in Boston by Sept. 24. The judge said the U.S. Attorney's Office there continues to investigate.

In downtown Los Angeles, he appeared haggard in a bright blue T-shirt — with the tips of his hair died purple — as he stood beside public defender Andre Townsend.

Outside court, his wife of 42 years, Betty Chain, faced reporters but declined to say whether she was aware of the alleged threats. She called reporters "zombies" and then clarified that description.

"Oh you people are pathetic," she said. "You wanna quote me calling you zombies no problem. You walked into my yard like the night of the living dead."

Some of Robert Chain's alleged calls were recorded, according to the FBI. On the day The Boston Globe published a coordinated editorial response with other newspapers around the country to attacks on the press and in defense of the First Amendment, Chain is accused of calling them and threatening to kill newspaper employees.

"You're the enemy of the people, and we're going to kill every f------ one of you," the caller said. "Hey, why don't you call the F, why don't you call Mueller, maybe he can help you out, buddy."

In response, local law enforcement maintained a presence outside the Globe's offices, according to the statement.

Hank Shaw, in charge of the FBI's Boston office, said in the statement, "All threats are taken seriously, as we never know if the subject behind the threat intends to follow through with their actions."

"Everyone has a right to express their opinion, but threatening to kill people, takes it over the line and will not be tolerated," he said.

The FBI said that even though Chain blocked his caller ID, they were able to trace the calls to his address in California and used public databases to confirm that he lived there. In addition, Chain made two calls from his cellphone that were unblocked.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly lashed out against the press and called the news media an "enemy of the people," using the phrase as recently as Thursday on Twitter.

Chain faces up to five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 if convicted.

The Boston Globe thanked law enforcement in a statement.

"While it was unsettling for many of our staffers to be threatened in such a way, nobody – really, nobody – let it get in the way of the important work of this institution," a newspaper spokesperson said.
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Re: Everything you didn't want to know about Trump and were not afraid to ask

Post by pErvinalia » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:43 am

Forty Two wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:42 am
Low unemployment, low inflation, low interest rates, rising stock market, high worker participation rates, expanding industrial base, expanding business sector overall, reduced regulations, renegotiated trade deal with Mexico, lower taxes, no new wars and more peace talks .....
So he's (allegedly) making the trains run on time?

Oh, and interest rates just went up for the first time in about an epoch. :fp:
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Post by Tero » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:50 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:43 am
Forty Two wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:42 am
Low unemployment, low inflation, low interest rates, rising stock market, high worker participation rates, expanding industrial base, expanding business sector overall, reduced regulations, renegotiated trade deal with Mexico, lower taxes, no new wars and more peace talks .....
So he's (allegedly) making the trains run on time?

Oh, and interest rates just went up for the first time in about an epoch. :fp:
What a lovely chap, doing all that. And still managing to come out an asshole. Real talent.

What trains? Trump does not support such things!

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:06 am

The metaphorical trains.

I'm also interested in evidence that Trump is doing any of that compared to ongoing trends from Barry's terms. Aside from the unemployment stat, as it's meaningless, as I've explained to Coity Two at least five times before.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:10 am

I like regulations of the right kind. I don't care about tax breaks for the wealthy. Even if Obamacare didn't work out I support going down a similar path. Expanding business sector sounds like babble to me. I guess Clinton would have gone to war? Aren't we still where we don't belong anyway?

But whatever, I think big picture about this stuff and big picture Republicans are fucking psychotic assholes with no desire to make the world a better place.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:14 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:10 am
I like regulations of the right kind.
Exactly. And this is another point I've made to Coity at least 5 times as well. Are all regulations bad? And where's his breakdown of whether the regs Trump binned were good or bad? It seems he just accepts at face value that they are all bad.
I don't care about tax breaks for the wealthy.
CLASS WARFARE!!! :hairfire:

We've got ourselves a socialist here boys.. :whisper:
Expanding business sector sounds like babble to me. I guess Clinton would have gone to war? Aren't we still where we don't belong anyway?
Yep. Supporting fucking Saudi Arabia in a war against Yemen. Threatening war against Iran (which can only embolden Israel to do the job for the US).
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Post by Joe » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:37 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:43 am
Forty Two wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:42 am
Low unemployment, low inflation, low interest rates, rising stock market, high worker participation rates, expanding industrial base, expanding business sector overall, reduced regulations, renegotiated trade deal with Mexico, lower taxes, no new wars and more peace talks .....
So he's (allegedly) making the trains run on time?

Oh, and interest rates just went up for the first time in about an epoch. :fp:
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..... but, the president is an uncouth cad who cheats on his wives and pays for nondisclosure agreements, and lacks grace, poise and overall presentation, the orange bastard with the funny hair.

I'll take that deal, any day of the week.
By that level of moral relativism, our friend must have worshiped Bill Clinton. Remember:
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Clinton presided over the following economic results, measured from January 1993 to December 2000, with alternate dates as indicated:

Average real GDP growth of 3.8%, compared to average growth of 3.1% from 1970-1992. The economy grew every quarter.

Real GDP per capita increased from about $36,000 in 1992 to $44,470 in 2000 (in 2009 dollars), about 23%, roughly the same as it did from 1981-1989 during the Reagan administration.

Inflation averaged 2.6%, versus 6.1% from 1970-1992 and 3.0% in 1992.

Labor market

Non-farm payrolls increased by 22.7 million from February 1993 to January 2001 (236,000 per month average, the fastest on record for a Presidential tenure) while civilian employment increased by 18.5 million (193,000 per month average).

The unemployment rate was 7.3% in January 1993, fell steadily to 3.8% by April 2000 and was 4.2% in January 2001 when his second term ended. It was below 5.0% after May 1997.

Unemployment for African Americans fell from 14.1% in January 1993 to 7.0% in April 2000, the lowest rate on record.

Unemployment for Hispanics fell from 11.3% in January 1993 to 5.1% in October 2000, the lowest rate on record up to that point.

Households

Real median household income increased from $50,725 in 1992 to $57,790 in 2000, a 13.9% increase.[

The poverty rate declined from 15.1% in 1993 to 11.3% in 2000, the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. The number in poverty fell from 39.2 million in 1993 to 31.58 million in 2000, a decline of 7.6 million.

The homeownership rate reached 67.7% near the end of the Clinton administration, the highest rate on record. In contrast, the homeownership rate fell from 65.6% in the first quarter of 1981 to 63.7% in the first quarter of 1993.

Clinton worked with the Republican-led Congress to enact welfare reform. As a result, welfare rolls dropped dramatically and were the lowest since 1969. Between January 1993 and September 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 million (a 53% decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981–1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22% increase) to 13.6 million people.
By his measure, Clinton's record of scandals and accusations of sexual predation were a small price to pay for such a good economy.
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pErvinalia wrote:
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pErvinalia wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:06 am
The metaphorical trains.

I'm also interested in evidence that Trump is doing any of that compared to ongoing trends from Barry's terms. Aside from the unemployment stat, as it's meaningless, as I've explained to Coity Two at least five times before.
Unemployment is lower yet many people still can't afford rent and are getting assistance. Wages are decreasing for the lowest earners. The money isn't "trickling down".
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:40 pm

Seabass wrote:Another Trump "accomplishment"! Inciting homegrown terrorism!
California man charged with threatening to kill Boston Globe employees
“You’re the enemy of the people, and we’re going to kill every f------ one of you,” said man accused of making 14 threatening calls to the newspaper.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ca ... es-n905081

A California man charged with threatening to kill employees of The Boston Globe had 20 guns in his home when it was searched, federal officials said Thursday.

Robert Chain, 68, from Encino, allegedly made 14 threatening phone calls to the paper from Aug. 10 through Aug. 22, at one point telling the paper that it was "the enemy of the people." He is charged with one count of making threatening communications in interstate commerce.

In federal court in Los Angeles Thursday, Chain heard a reading of the allegations and told Judge Paul L. Abrams he understood them. He was freed on $50,000 bond and ordered to stay away from guns and from the Boston Globe.

Chain purchased a 9 mm carbine rifle in May, according to the criminal complaint. Prosecutors said in court that authorities who searched his home found firearms everywhere, including by the front door, where a shotgun with shells was discovered.

"In a time of increasing political polarization, and amid the increasing incidence of mass shootings, members of the public must police their own political rhetoric. Or we will," Andrew Lelling, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Massachusetts, said in a statement.

Chain was expected to face federal allegations in Boston by Sept. 24. The judge said the U.S. Attorney's Office there continues to investigate.

In downtown Los Angeles, he appeared haggard in a bright blue T-shirt — with the tips of his hair died purple — as he stood beside public defender Andre Townsend.

Outside court, his wife of 42 years, Betty Chain, faced reporters but declined to say whether she was aware of the alleged threats. She called reporters "zombies" and then clarified that description.

"Oh you people are pathetic," she said. "You wanna quote me calling you zombies no problem. You walked into my yard like the night of the living dead."

Some of Robert Chain's alleged calls were recorded, according to the FBI. On the day The Boston Globe published a coordinated editorial response with other newspapers around the country to attacks on the press and in defense of the First Amendment, Chain is accused of calling them and threatening to kill newspaper employees.

"You're the enemy of the people, and we're going to kill every f------ one of you," the caller said. "Hey, why don't you call the F, why don't you call Mueller, maybe he can help you out, buddy."

In response, local law enforcement maintained a presence outside the Globe's offices, according to the statement.

Hank Shaw, in charge of the FBI's Boston office, said in the statement, "All threats are taken seriously, as we never know if the subject behind the threat intends to follow through with their actions."

"Everyone has a right to express their opinion, but threatening to kill people, takes it over the line and will not be tolerated," he said.

The FBI said that even though Chain blocked his caller ID, they were able to trace the calls to his address in California and used public databases to confirm that he lived there. In addition, Chain made two calls from his cellphone that were unblocked.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly lashed out against the press and called the news media an "enemy of the people," using the phrase as recently as Thursday on Twitter.

Chain faces up to five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 if convicted.

The Boston Globe thanked law enforcement in a statement.

"While it was unsettling for many of our staffers to be threatened in such a way, nobody – really, nobody – let it get in the way of the important work of this institution," a newspaper spokesperson said.
20 guns in his home? I can't see why you'd need more than 10.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:14 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:10 am
I like regulations of the right kind. I don't care about tax breaks for the wealthy. Even if Obamacare didn't work out I support going down a similar path. Expanding business sector sounds like babble to me. I guess Clinton would have gone to war? Aren't we still where we don't belong anyway?

But whatever, I think big picture about this stuff and big picture Republicans are fucking psychotic assholes with no desire to make the world a better place.
Obama didn't start any new wars either.

Anyway. We'll see how long that lasts. Going to war to garner support has always been a staple of the Republicans when they feel the power slipping. And they must be itching to try out all that military equipment they bought and justify their purchase.

And no. They have no desire to make the World a better place. No desire to improve the lot of the poor. No desire to create a healthy populace. No desire to improve civil rights. No desire to safeguard the environment. They don't know what it's really like to create something, to create a life, to feel it growing inside of them. All they know how to create is death and destruction-

Oops! Went a bit Sarah Connor there.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:23 pm

Nasty, nasty dog whistles. SAD!
The hosts of Fox & Friends were outraged on Sunday over what they perceived as indirect criticism of President Donald Trump at John McCain’s funeral on Saturday. Co-host Rachel Campos-Duffy said she was sure that a lot of “elites” were “gleeful at some of the shots taken at President Trump.” The hosts appeared to concede that praising decency and criticizing despotism now means criticizing the President. The speakers at the funeral never mentioned Trump’s name.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:32 pm

He invited himself. Has to look at his Irish golfcourse.

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L'Emmerdeur wrote:
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The hosts appeared to concede that praising decency and criticizing despotism now means criticizing the President. The speakers at the funeral never mentioned Trump’s name.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:14 pm

'Good job Jeff': Trump blames Sessions as GOP lawmakers charged before midterms
Donald Trump has mounted another extraordinary attack on his attorney general, Jeff Sessions, blaming him for charges against two congressmen he said jeopardised Republican chances in the forthcoming midterm elections.

On Monday afternoon, the president tweeted: “Two long running, Obama era, investigations of two very popular Republican Congressmen were brought to a well publicized charge, just ahead of the Mid-Terms, by the Jeff Sessions Justice Department. Two easy wins now in doubt because there is not enough time. Good job Jeff......

“....The Democrats, none of whom voted for Jeff Sessions, must love him now.”

In fact, one Democratic senator, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, voted for Sessionswhen he was confirmed as attorney general by a 52-47 vote in February 2017...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... _clipboard
So the President thinks Republican representatives should be above the law now eh?

Someone will be along shortly to explain that Democrats have always thought this, and that Trump is actually the most liberal President since Jean-François Reubell.
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