The Coronavirus Thread

[Sean Hayden]

Just a few to start of with. I will give you a clue; there are no answers which is why the data is worthless and not open to comparison.

You're bluffing.

[Cunt]

I think you are supposed to be more diplomatic, or you might lose the participation of member...member...um...can't remember.

Must not be important.

[Joe]

Must be the Kool-Aide.

[Scot Dutchy]

Well you must know Joe.

[Joe]

Dutch Kool-Aide is the best Kool-Aide.

[Cunt]

Last night I partied with a trucker. He has had no interruptions to his work, and doesn't ever get to decline a duty due to the 'rona.

I've seen a parade of health care workers, and teachers, bemoaning their exposure to the virus. Funny that the truckers just seem to be getting on with their work.

Good thing too. We really can't go on without them. Nurses only take care of a small portion of the population. Truckers and the like, take care of EVERYONE.

Some pals are starting to look into testing effluent for the rona. I hope they are able to make some headway there. I don't know how it works, but it should make it easier to take a broad survey of communities, to see if there is infection present.

[Sean Hayden]

A former employee is suing a trucking company after he was fired for raising concerns about workplace COVID-19 exposure.

In a lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois late last month, former dockworker Jamaal Watts accused trucking company Estes Express of showing “reckless disregard” for his personal safety when they required him to continue working at a facility where two coworkers had been infected with COVID-19.

Watts reportedly told his supervisor that he was uncomfortable with the health risks but was told that he would be fired if he left early.

Lawsuit against LTL carrier Estes may foreshadow avalanche of COVID litigation

--don't be a company man Cunt

[Cunt]

If the nurses stop, a few sick people die.

If the trucks stop...well...I think it's a more significant amount of harm.

[Sean Hayden]

Did you just put your fingers in your ears there?

[Cunt]

Oh, no doubt there will be litigation, but lawyers might be less important even than nurses.

CERTAINLY less critical than are truckers.

[Sean Hayden]

--swerve!

Truckers do complain, and rightly so. That was the point you made before wasn't it, that unlike nurses and teachers truckers just do their job...

--don't be a company man cunt. Truckers, being as important as they are, deserve protection too.

[Cunt]

--swerve!

Truckers do complain, and rightly so. That was the point you made before wasn't it, that unlike nurses and teachers truckers just do their job...

--don't be a company man cunt. Truckers, being as important as they are, deserve protection too.

They deserve protection, but their work is important.

Scale matters. If we sent all the nurses home, something bad would happen. It would affect most of the sick people.

If we sent the truckers home, something bad would happen. To everyone, including the sick people.

So far, last year taught me which jobs are 'essential'. What work is essential.

We are a pretty frivolous society, which I like a lot, but it's important to remember what is needed, vs what is a frill.

[Sean Hayden]

I'm happy to celebrate the work truckers do. There's no need to diminish the work of others to do so. More importantly, I'd like to avoid contributing to silencing workers, which is exactly what the company man is doing when he calls legitimate concerns a sign of weakness.

[Cunt]

I'm happy to celebrate the work truckers do. There's no need to diminish the work of others to do so. More importantly, I'd like to avoid contributing to silencing workers, which is exactly what the company man is doing when he calls legitimate concerns a sign of weakness.

That's a fine position, but while legitimate concerns are litigated, the trucks have to keep rolling.

Celebrate it the way my neighbour does. She ran away from a chat we were having once, to dash into the street and give a bag of grapes to a passing garbage-truck driver.

I mean, if you wanna be classy like her.

It isn't diminishing anything to say that if all nurses and doctors quit, lots of people would die. If truckers quit, a lot more would. A LOT more.

It's about scale, and nurses (while tictok dancing their way to a lucrative onlyfans career) are gaining much more sympathy than the real essential workers. It's easy to forget because truckers are generally ugly with no hope of an onlyfans career.

[JimC]

The kool-aid is being really drunk in large quantities. Keep sucking the tit and swallow all the propaganda.
Nobody is bothering to check the figures. Yeah they must be right. Why not answer the questions?

How is the data collected?
Is it collected in the same in every country?
What is the validity of the data?
What are the agreed definitions of what a Covid case and death is?
How long after a positive test is it still considered a Covid death and is the same in every country?
Is the data from Africa, India and Asia accepted as real data and how it collected when most of those countries dont even have a health care service?

Just a few to start of with. I will give you a clue; there are no answers which is why the data is worthless and not open to comparison

The arguments comparing data from countries such as the Netherlands and Australia have nothing to do with the validity of covid data from Africa, India and Asia. They are probably more inaccurate than data from western countries, not because of deliberate misinformation, but because of a lack of suitable government infrastructure.

And all data has a range of error and uncertainty, but valid statistical comparisons can still be made making allowances for such uncertainty. If accepted, your absolutism about data (in the sense of complete and utter distrust) means that no arguments, in in any direction at all, could be made, so discussion is pointless...