All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by laklak » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:11 pm

Probably. I mean I hope there was more thought behind it than "Fuck it, lets give it a try", but I'm not sure about that. We could be dealing with Stopped Clock Syndrome. In any case, lets hope this jump starts a rational discussion, even if the impetus for that is the Iranians (and whoever else) don't have a fucking clue what The Donald will do next. He did say, during the campaign, that he was unpredictable. :D
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Joe » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:30 pm

Well, I've read that both Obama and W considered this, so my guess it's been chewed on pretty thoroughly by the NSC staff, and they viewed the potential negatives as outweighing the potential positives. Both of those guys weren't afraid to gamble if the upside was high enough.

From what I've heard about the Trump White House, the NSC information process is so shot to shit by the war on the Deep State, he may not have gotten all the downside explained to him.

We won't really know until he's out of office and all the memoirs come out. :{D
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:56 pm

Now, if Trump could say, get Iran to sign an agreement not to build nukes, well then he'd truly be a hero! Unlike that loser Obama. SAD!
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:27 pm

Trump helpfully providing another reminder of what he's done to MAGA™.

'Trump ... Taking Credit for Decline in Cancer Deaths ... After He’s Decimated Research Budgets'
President Donald Trump is often quick to take credit for any good news – while pawning off responsibility for negative outcomes on others, especially his predecessor. But social media users were stunned – and many outraged – when Trump tweeted Thursday morning a clear pat on the back for himself on recent news the rate of cancer deaths in America took a steep drop.

“Cancer Death Rate in U.S. Sees Sharpest One-Year Drop,” a New York Times headline reported Wednesday. “The cancer death rate in the United States fell 2.2 percent from 2016 to 2017 — the largest single-year decline in cancer mortality ever reported.”

President Trump was not even in office for the full year of 2017, so it’s literally impossible that anything he has done has contributed to the welcome decline in the cancer death rate.

But he took credit nonetheless.
U.S. Cancer Death Rate Lowest In Recorded History! A lot of good news coming out of this Administration.

-- Donald J. Trump 3:00 PM - Jan 9, 2020
Many were furious, given that Trump’s budget has slashed funding for cancer research and prevention. His 2020 budget cuts $35 million from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for its cancer screening and prevention programs, Cancer Health reported.

But that’s a fraction of the devastating $897 million gutting of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). There are also massive cuts proposed for other agencies that work to help fight cancer.

“The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases would see the second largest cut, at $769 million, and the National Human Genome Research Institute would lose $80 million.”

And if anything, Trump’s damaging decisions are doubtlessly increasing future rates of cancer and other preventable diseases and deaths:
FACT CHECK: In reality Trump regime has rolled back environmental regulations that would increase chances in future that people could develop cancer.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:45 pm

Joe wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:30 pm
Well, I've read that both Obama and W considered this, so my guess it's been chewed on pretty thoroughly by the NSC staff, and they viewed the potential negatives as outweighing the potential positives. Both of those guys weren't afraid to gamble if the upside was high enough.
We know he was behind the embassy attack a few days prior, AND he was in Iraq plotting more mischief. He only recently got brave enough to show up over there more openly. Under the same circumstances, I'd say W certainly and Obama probably would have taken the hit.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by laklak » Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:23 pm

Nuke all the mofos now and we don't have to deal with their bullshit again.

Am I right or am I right?

:funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:

Chris Matthews called him a "beloved hero" and compared him to Elvis and Princess Diana.

You fucking could NOT make this up. :funny: :funny: :funny:
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:01 am

Tyrannical wrote:
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We know...
Who told ya?
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Joe » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:04 am

Tyrannical wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:45 pm
Joe wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:30 pm
Well, I've read that both Obama and W considered this, so my guess it's been chewed on pretty thoroughly by the NSC staff, and they viewed the potential negatives as outweighing the potential positives. Both of those guys weren't afraid to gamble if the upside was high enough.
We know he was behind the embassy attack a few days prior, AND he was in Iraq plotting more mischief. He only recently got brave enough to show up over there more openly. Under the same circumstances, I'd say W certainly and Obama probably would have taken the hit.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:04 am

The comment was Matthews's description of how believes Soleimani is regarded in Iran. But you knew that.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:18 am

If you hate Trump, you hate America
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by laklak » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:18 am

Matthews never met a terrorist he didn't like. Bet he's got a pair of Che underroos. Here's a different Iranian take on it.



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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:20 am

Meanwhile, at the Quixotic Attempts at Reining in the Henchmen Department, the New York City Bar Association has sent a letter to leaders in the US Congress giving an excellent precis of some of the ways US Attorney General William Barr has debased his office, and requesting an investigation.

'Dear Speaker Pelosi, Minority Leader McCarthy, Majority Leader McConnell, and Minority Leader Schumer:
We write on behalf of the New York City Bar Association (the “City Bar”) to urge Congress to commence formal inquiries into a pattern of conduct by Attorney General William P. Barr that threatens public confidence in the fair and impartial administration of justice. We make this request based upon our belief, as similarly recognized by Mr. Barr during his Senate confirmation hearings, that the Attorney General occupies a unique position with special obligations as the nation’s top law enforcement officer. We also make this request in keeping with the City Bar’s mission to embrace advancement of the rule of law and the fair administration of justice, especially by those who are entrusted with important public responsibilities.

As further described below, Mr. Barr’s recent actions and statements position the Attorney General and, by extension, the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) as political partisans willing to use the levers of government to empower certain groups over others. These statements are the latest examples of a broader pattern of conduct that is inconsistent with the role of the Attorney General in our legal and constitutional system and with the norms and standards that govern the fair administration of justice. We urge Congress to exercise its constitutional authority to investigate this troubling pattern of conduct, in order to assess Mr. Barr’s actions as Attorney General and to consider any legislative and oversight responses and remedies that may be necessary.

The duties to act impartially, to avoid even the appearance of partiality and impropriety, and to avoid manifesting bias, prejudice, or partisanship in the exercise of official responsibilities are bedrock obligations for government lawyers. In the context of pending investigations, government lawyers also are obliged to be circumspect in their public statements and to avoid prejudging the outcomes of those investigations. Mr. Barr has disregarded these fundamental obligations in several extended public statements during the past few months:

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:35 am

laklak wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:18 am
Matthews never met a terrorist he didn't like. Bet he's got a pair of Che underroos. Here's a different Iranian take on it.



Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya choice, nowhudimean?
Yeahbut who is she going to turn to for her revolution? Not Trump. He is only interested in proving Obama wrong. Now he is done with that.

In general we are done nation building after Bush and Iraq. They do not exactly like us.

This is the division that is there and will never be resolved.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by laklak » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:42 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:20 am
Meanwhile, at the Quixotic Attempts at Reining in the Henchmen Department, the New York City Bar Association has sent a letter to leaders in the US Congress giving an excellent precis of some of the ways US Attorney General William Barr has debased his office, and requesting an investigation.
Ah, the NYC Bar Association! Now there's an apolitical organization if I've ever seen one. Yeah, lets investigate the motherfucker! Let's investigate everybody! IMPEACH THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!

I find the entire thing (in the words of Jesus Quintana) laughable man! And what is even more laughable is how the Rethuglicans are going to turn that fucking worm when they get the chance. Oh, the wailing and gnashing of teeth when they impeach the next Democrit POTUS, which you can bet your ass they'll do. It's not FAIR! Gonna be hair on the walls, man, some ugly fucking shit commin' down soon.

Just one property left to sell and we'll be completely shut of this lunatic asylum of a country. Now if I can just get Pegasus over to Mozambique....
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:53 am

All kinds of little people, white people, crowd into hall in Toledo
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Biden polls higher
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... /Ohio.html

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