AmeriKKKa

[Cunt]

I don't know whether she thinks of herself as 'serious academic'. I will say Yale does though.

[JimC]

To my mind, a serious contributor to the true disadvantage suffered by various racial groups such as black people in the US involves the stifling weight of past disadvantage. After the civil war, the economic circumstances of the black population was incredibly low compared to the white population, considered on average. It is well known that being born into comparative wealth gives, (again on average) a clear advantage, and that being born into poverty makes it very hard to get a good education and a well-paying job. A handful of individuals of any race can of course, by effort and a good dose of luck escape the poverty trap. This, of course, is seized on by conservatives and racists, in the "anyone can make good" myth, which totally ignores the statistical reality.

This historical burden continues, generation after generation. In some parts of the US it seems that conservative policies involving voter suppression, for example, conspire to maintain this systematic disadvantage.

[Cunt]

I see how equality and equity conflict. It's not the whole picture, but an important enough part that I wait for others to understand it better, then wait for their disagreements about the subtleties educate me further.

[Joe]

I don't know whether she thinks of herself as 'serious academic'. I will say Yale does though.

You can say it, but she's not. An academic is defined as "a teacher or scholar in a college or institute of higher education." She's a practicing shrink, and self employed according to her LinkedIn page.

Yale doesn't seem to approve of her either. Here's their statement.

On April 6, a speaker who is not affiliated with Yale gave a Child Study Center Grand Rounds talk, with the provocative title “The Psychopathic Problem of the White Mind.” After the event, several faculty members expressed concern to the Yale School of Medicine’s Office of Academic and Professional Development and the Office of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion about the content of the talk.

Based on these concerns, School of Medicine leaders, including Dean Brown and Deputy Dean Latimore, in consultation with the Chair of the Child Study Center, reviewed a recording of the talk and found the tone and content antithetical to the values of the school. Because Grand Rounds are typically posted online after the event and in consideration of Yale’s commitment to the right of free expression, school leaders further reviewed the Report of the Committee on Freedom of Expression at Yale.

In deciding whether to post the video, we weighed our grave concern about the extreme hostility, imagery of violence, and profanity expressed by the speaker against our commitment to freedom of expression. We ultimately decided to post the video with access limited to those who could have attended the talk— the members of the Yale community. To emphasize that the ideas expressed by the speaker conflict with the core values of Yale School of Medicine, we added the disclaimer: “This video contains profanity and imagery of violence. Yale School of Medicine expects the members of our community to speak respectfully to one another and to avoid the use of profanity as a matter of professionalism and acknowledgment of our common humanity. Yale School of Medicine does not condone imagery of violence or racism against any group.”

Sounds like they're trying to cancel her.

[Svartalf]

Fantasy? my foot. That statement is a total denial of well known historical realities.

That would make it a fantasy. It's one most people on the right of the political spectrum cling to.

I don't believe it's a fantasy. Those who spout that kind of manure know perfectly well it's fit for fertilizer, not for intelligent conversation.

[Hermit]

Fantasy? my foot. That statement is a total denial of well known historical realities.

That would make it a fantasy. It's one most people on the right of the political spectrum cling to.

I don't believe it's a fantasy. Those who spout that kind of manure know perfectly well it's fit for fertilizer, not for intelligent conversation.

You impute way too much capacity to reason things out to people in general and lunatics in particular. Almost all who spout that kind of manure really do believe what they say. Many of them even really believe mutually contradictory things simultaneously. Pence, for example, believes that every word in the Bible is God's word, or at least inspired by God, and therefore true. At the very same time he also believes that this god is just and merciful. It is therefore easy to sincerely believe that racism does not exist in the USA.

I imagine he would argue that since the abolition of slavery and the legislative changes resulting from the civil rights movement between the mid 1950s to the mid 1970s ended official, formal and explicit institutionalised racial discrimination, disenfranchisement and racial segregation, blacks and everyone else are on equal footing with WASPs. He, and many others, would be convinced that these measures got rid of racism in the land of the free. Their sincerely held view on the matter is of course removed from reality. That makes it a fantasy.

[pErvinalia]

Can institutional racism be in both directions?
https://nypost.com/2021/06/04/nyc-pysch ... yale-talk/

A New York City-based psychiatrist told an audience at the Yale School of Medicine in April that she had fantasies of “unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way.”

Dr. Aruna Khilanani spewed the race-hating virtual remarks — in which she also said she’d walk away from the shooting “with a bounce in my step” and that white people “make my blood boil” and “are out of their minds and have been for a long time” — at the Ivy League institution’s Child Study Center on April 6.

Serious academics should be treated as slightly below street whores and journalists, with regard to their station in life.

An individual being racist isn't an example of institutional racism.

[L'Emmerdeur]

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Serious academics should be treated as slightly below street whores and journalists, with regard to their station in life.

Thank you. An outstanding encapsulation of militant ignorance.

[JimC]

A perfect reason to dismiss as utterly irrelevant anything Cunt posts.

[Cunt]

What percentage of 'serious academics' are cited ten years after their death?

Cause it looks like a fairish amount of chaff mixed in with the wheat...

[pErvinalia]

How the fuck would you know? What's your scientific qualifications?

[Brian Peacock]

It proves the Post reported on the good Dr., who was lauded by other academics from Yale.

Why is it funny, exactly? Go on, let's hear it.

You mention institutional racism going both ways and you cite one woman fantasizing about shooting white people. Just what are you getting at, you Cunt? Spit it out already.

Selected snippets from one woman who is giving a talk exploring the idea that white identity depends on black rage as part of a broader event. Full audio recording available on this blog.

[Brian Peacock]

Also, "I had fantasies of..." is being presented as "I want to..."

[Seabass]

Simple thumb rule - the ones burning the books are probably not the good guys.

Cunt must be very upset about this book burning by Republicans.

Florida bans ‘critical race theory’ from its classrooms

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida’s state Board of Education banned “critical race theory” from public school classrooms Thursday, adopting new rules it said would shield schoolchildren from curricula that could “distort historical events.”

Florida’s move was widely expected as a national debate intensifies about how race should be used as a lens in classrooms to examine the country’s tumultuous history.

Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis appeared by video at the top of the board’s meeting, urging its members, many of whom he appointed, to adopt the new measures he asserted would serve students with the facts rather than “trying to indoctrinate them with ideology.”

The Black Lives Matter movement has helped bring contentious discussions about race to the forefront of American discourse, and classrooms have become a battleground. Supporters contend that federal law has preserved the unequal treatment of people on the basis of race and that the country was founded on the theft of land and labor.

Opponents of critical race theory say schoolchildren should not be taught that America is fundamentally racist. Governors and legislatures in Republican-led states around the country are considering or have signed into law bills that would limit how teachers can frame American history.

Both sides accuse the other of politicizing classroom instruction and violating the free speech rights of countless people by limiting the allowable points of view.

Florida law already requires schools to provide instruction on a host of fundamentals, including the Declaration of Independence, the Holocaust and African American history, but the topics have often been muddled. Current events, including the killings of Black people by police, have intensified debates.

Some have called for a “faithful” interpretation of U.S. history that honors the founding of the country — as a rebellion against oppressive British rule. But some Americans — particularly Blacks, Native Americans, Latinos and Asian Americans — argue that dissenting perspectives are often missing from text books and classroom discussions.

The new rules say classroom instruction “must be factual and objective, and may not suppress or distort significant historical events.” It goes on to mention the Holocaust, slavery and the Civil War, as well as the civil rights movement and the contributions of Blacks, Hispanics and women to the country.

But it also makes specific mention of “theories that distort historical events” that are inconsistent with board policy, including any teaching that denies the Holocaust or espouses critical race theory, which the new rules say asserts “that racism is not merely the product of prejudice, but that racism is embedded in American society and its legal systems in order to uphold the supremacy of white persons.”

During his brief appearance Thursday, DeSantis called it “outrageous” how some instructors are deviating from what he and others consider the fundamentals of history.

“Some of this stuff is, I think, really toxic,” DeSantis told the school board. “I think it’s going to cause a lot of divisions. I think it’ll cause people to think of themselves more as a member of particular race based on skin color, rather than based on the content of their character and based on their hard work and what they’re trying to accomplish in life.”

The Florida Education Association had called on the board to reject the proposal.

The association, which represents teachers across Florida, called on the board to strip away inflammatory language from the proposed rules. A particular sore point was the use of “indoctrinate” in the rule, which the union says presents an overly negative view of classroom instruction. That word, however, remained in the rules adopted by the board.

“The job of educators is to challenge students with facts and allow them to question and think critically about information, and that’s the antithesis of indoctrination,” Cathy Boehme, a public policy advocate for the association, told the board. “No matter our color, background or ZIP Code, we want our kids to have an education that imparts honesty about who we are, integrity and how we treat others, and courage to do what’s right.”

More than two dozen members of the public spoke on the matter, their opinions divided and impassioned. The board meeting, held at a state college in Jacksonville, was briefly recessed when one speaker went over his time limit and began chanting in support of teachers.

One woman implored the board to reject the new rules, saying it was important for children to learn about how the legacies of slavery, segregation and Jim Crow still “created an uneven playing field for Black people.”

Others spoke about how an individual’s interpretation of history could reflect personal agendas and biases that could lead to the proselytization of children.

The new rules also forbids use of the 1619 Project, a classroom program spawned by a New York Times project that focuses on teaching about slavery and African American history. The project’s name refers to the year popularly believed to be when slaves were first brought to colonial America.

https://apnews.com/article/florida-race ... e9955b0a8d

[Seabass]

Florida restricts how US history is taught, seen as a way to get critical race theory out of classroom

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — A new rule in Florida that will place tougher guidelines on how teachers deliver U.S. history lessons was approved Thursday, which public officials have touted as a way to get critical race theory — a movement that examines the intersections of race, law and equity — out of the classroom.

The Florida Board of Education met Thursday in Jacksonville to discuss the topic that's been strong-arming education news and Gov. Ron DeSantis' talking points for weeks . The monthly meeting lasted four hours and featured a contentious debate with about 30 public speakers that was derailed when people began chanting "allow teachers to teach the truth."

The new guidelines seek to change how teachers approach U.S. history, civics and government lessons with an added emphasis on patriotism and the U.S. Constitution.

It's a selling point DeSantis has used since first running for governor in 2018 and is now wheeling out again ahead of his re-election campaign. DeSantis has notably called critical race theory the practice of "teaching kids to hate their country and to hate each other."

Supporters of the concept say it's more about teaching through a lens of systemic racism and equity.

His push mirrors other conservative leaders across the country. About a dozen states — including Louisiana, Iowa, Rhode Island, West Virginia and Oklahoma — have introduced bills that would prevent teachers from teaching "divisive," "racist," or "sexist" concepts.

Ben Frazier, the founder of the Northside Coalition of Jacksonville chants "Allow teachers to teach the truth" at the end of his public comments opposing the state of Florida's plans to ban the teaching of critical race theory in public schools during the Department of Education meeting Thursday.
The vote also had a particular resonance in Palm Beach County, where a divided school board last month removed a reference to “white advantage” from an equity statement after some parents called it an attempt to inject critical race theory into school district policy.

Justin Katz, president of Palm Beach County’s teachers union, said Thursday’s vote “treads dangerously close to restricting the instruction of objective facts.”

“I do fear that the politicization of critical race theory is being used to snuff out any and all conversations about equity, race and racism in our schools,” said Katz, a former high school history teacher. "Educating our students with objective historical facts is literally the purpose of the existing state standards across a variety of content areas.

Richard Corcoran, the Commissioner of the Florida Department of Education sits next to Florida Department of Education Board Chair Andy Tuck as they listen to speakers during Thursday morning's Florida Department of Education meeting.
Some educators pointed out that the vote will have little practical impact on the classroom. In a statement, Palm Beach County’s school district said that what and how it teaches would not be affected.

In Duval County, a spokesman said the new rule won't impact instruction within the school district.

"Duval County Public Schools continues to build on a strong tradition of teaching American history," Tracy Pierce with Duval County Public Schools said. "We also offer African American history both as an independent course elective at the high school level and as an important topic integrated through other curriculum including social studies, English language arts, and courses across grade levels."

Pierce said the district follows all required statutes and rules regarding standards and curriculum, noting that critical race theory as its own topic is not included in the state curriculum.

Elizabeth Albert, president of the Volusia County teachers union, also noted that critical race theory is not a required part of instruction and students aren't tested on it in state exams.

"My question would be, why is he making such a stand to ban something, claiming that teachers are indoctrinating students, when this isn't even in the schools?" she said. "He's creating an issue where an issue doesn't exist."

Still, Albert added that students deserve to know what's going on in the U.S. and around the world, and telling partial truths equates to a falsehood.

The guidelines considered by the Board of Education say teachers "may not define American history as something other than the creation of a new nation based largely on universal principles stated in the Declaration of Independence" and prohibit teachers from sharing their personal views.

“The governor and the commissioner have been clear that teachers need to be engaging students in how to think — not what to think,” Cheryl Etters, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Education told the Tampa Bay Times. “Standards drive instruction, and anything taught in the classroom must align with those standards.”

Teachers across Florida have expressed concerns with the new teaching standards, adding that discussing personal opinions should be welcomed, so long as students are provided the tools to make their own decisions.

"Teaching the facts will bring the country together," said Jacksonville-based activist Wells Todd, "not divide the country."

The new restrictions come on the heels of heightened racial tensions following the killing of George Floyd. David Hoppey, the director of the University of North Florida's education program, said it would be nearly impossible for teachers to ignore what's going on in society with their students.

"You cannot have civics without critical analysis and discussion about historical and current events," he said, adding that critical race theory can be used to help a class better understand topics like dress code enforcement, voter suppression and more.

Ahead of the vote, Florida education officials toured the state for a series of community meetings for input on the state's academic standards. Those meetings quickly became battlefields for pro- and anti- critical race theory voices.

Audience members joined Ben Frazier, the founder of the Northside Coalition of Jacksonville in chanting "Allow teachers to teach the truth" during public comments on the state's plans to ban the teaching of critical race theory in state public schools.
In St. Johns County on Tuesday, some residents discussed their opposition to critical race theory, citing not wanting discussions about systemic racism in the classroom, News4Jax reported. Others in Miami raised concerns about the new rule potentially whitewashing history lessons and limiting classroom discussions — concerns educators have also brought up. Another meeting took place on Wednesday in Baker County.

Keeley Koch wasn’t surprised by Thursday’s vote, saying the board’s move “speaks volumes to the fear people, especially white people, in our state have.”

In Indian River County, where her son recently graduated high school, there’s been a growing debate among parents and community members. For Koch, who has spoken in favor of implementing the ideas of critical race theory, however, the rhetoric used by those opposing the theory only “propagates white supremacy by ignoring the historical facts this country was founded on.”

The Anti-Defamation League has also voiced concerns with the new teaching standards.

"The rule requires that public schools provide factual and objective instruction on state-mandated subjects including, African American history, slavery, the Civil War and Reconstruction, the Holocaust, and the civil rights movement. Yet, it broadly prohibits any instruction about racism being ‘embedded in American society and its legal systems," said Yael Hershfield, the Florida interim regional director.

Hershfield said it's impossible to teach about slavery or Jim Crow without examining laws that were put into place to instill segregation.

She added that from a Jewish perspective, the section about Holocaust education raises concerns.

Currently, the rule says the factual history of the Holocaust should be taught in a way that "leads to an investigation of human behavior, an understanding of the ramifications of prejudice, racism, and stereotyping, and an examination of what it means to be a responsible and respectful person, for the purposes of encouraging tolerance of diversity."

Hershfield said the rule could limit how the Holocaust is taught.

"For example, it could very well prohibit teaching why the Nazis used Jim Crow statutes as a model for their infamous Nuremberg Race Laws," she said. "A core tenet of teaching history is examining why events occurred for the purpose of developing critical thinking skills that can help ensure historical wrongs are not repeated in the present day or the future. The rule appears to contradict that essential value, which is a disservice to our children and society as a whole."

On Thursday, members of the grassroots organization, The Northside Coalition, rallied at Florida State College at Jacksonville in opposition of the new rule and eventually forced a recess when they started a chant during the public comment portion.

"It's an effort to whitewash, coverup and candy coat history," the group's president, Ben Frazier, said. "It is, in fact, a Republican political propaganda campaign."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/edu ... 652613002/