An independent Scotland?

[mistermack]

So, who gets to be King of Scotland? Who would be Mary's closest Scottish relative? I bet the Pope could crown him while sitting above the coronation stone.

I'm available.
As a direct descendant of Kenneth McAlpin, I'm definitely first in line.
I'm also happy to learn polo, and criticise new buildings.

My geraniums have democratically elected me, and they told me it's my destiny.

I always said Scotland should be free.
Apparently, it's not free, but it is a bargain.

[Rum]

Free Scotland! (with every six packets of porridge oats!)

[Red Celt]

(c) Stereotypes R Us

[Clinton Huxley]

Hmmm. Spain not happy with automatic EU membership for Scotland. THe issue is not as clear cut as the Little Scotlanders like to pretend. Salmonella would know this, if he had sought legal advice...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ship-spain

[Clinton Huxley]

Interesting. The separatists like to honk that they are standing on firm ground but it just ain't true.

http://shiftinggrounds.org/2012/10/what ... nd-the-eu/

[Svartalf]

So, who gets to be King of Scotland? Who would be Mary's closest Scottish relative? I bet the Pope could crown him while sitting above the coronation stone.

Scotland already has a monarch... and her mother was a Scot.

YOu wouldn't secede from UK and keep that harridan, latest of a long line of Hunnish usurpers for a head of state, would you?

[Clinton Huxley]

It would be amusing if HMQ said she didn't want the job.

[ronmcd]

Interesting. The separatists like to honk that they are standing on firm ground but it just ain't true.

http://shiftinggrounds.org/2012/10/what ... nd-the-eu/

Two lines of particular interest in that article you linked to:

What emerges from this is that the real determining factors are political rather than legal.
....
I personally have no doubt that Scotland would be allowed to join the EU.

[ronmcd]

It would be amusing if HMQ said she didn't want the job.

You do realise the Queen is NOT "Queen of England" with all the other commonwealth countries just having her as monarch out of the goodness of her heart?

James VI and I (19 June 1566 – 27 March 1625) was King of Scotland as James VI from 24 July 1567 and King of England and Ireland as James I from the union of the English and Scottish crowns on 24 March 1603 until his death. The kingdoms of England and Scotland were individual sovereign states, with their own parliaments, judiciary, and laws, though both were ruled by James in personal union.

No need to thank us for lending you our monarchy ...

[Red Celt]

Hmmm. Spain not happy with automatic EU membership for Scotland. THe issue is not as clear cut as the Little Scotlanders like to pretend. Salmonella would know this, if he had sought legal advice...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ship-spain

And what about The Republic of Ireland, CH? (CH = Cunting Hypocrite)

[Red Celt]

So, who gets to be King of Scotland? Who would be Mary's closest Scottish relative? I bet the Pope could crown him while sitting above the coronation stone.

Scotland already has a monarch... and her mother was a Scot.

YOu wouldn't secede from UK and keep that harridan, latest of a long line of Hunnish usurpers for a head of state, would you?

It doesn't really matter what anyone thinks about that. The monarchy is not a part of the independence debate.

[klr]

Interesting. The separatists like to honk that they are standing on firm ground but it just ain't true.

http://shiftinggrounds.org/2012/10/what ... nd-the-eu/

Two lines of particular interest in that article you linked to:

What emerges from this is that the real determining factors are political rather than legal.
....
I personally have no doubt that Scotland would be allowed to join the EU.

I'm sorry, but I've just read the full article, and that's quote-mining. Quoting out of context if you will. The gist of the article is this: It's a political matter, but Scotland is not going to be in a very good position at all. That's hardly a revelation BTW.

[Tyrannical]

You know, the BNP supports a win-win situation for this discussion
Give the English an English Parliament, and drastically curtail the UK's parliamentary powers.

[ronmcd]

Interesting. The separatists like to honk that they are standing on firm ground but it just ain't true.

http://shiftinggrounds.org/2012/10/what ... nd-the-eu/

Two lines of particular interest in that article you linked to:

What emerges from this is that the real determining factors are political rather than legal.
....
I personally have no doubt that Scotland would be allowed to join the EU.

I'm sorry, but I've just read the full article, and that's quote-mining. Quoting out of context if you will. The gist of the article is this: It's a political matter, but Scotland is not going to be in a very good position at all. That's hardly a revelation BTW.

No, Clinton seems to think Scotland would not be allowed to join the EU. The article says what others have said: it's not credible to think the EU would not accept Scotland. We WILL be in EU, undoubtedly after negotiations and political discussions.

It would be quote mining if I were trying to change the meaning of the author's words. I wasn't, as I wasn't commenting on the main thrust of his opinion, ie what Scotland would have to do or go through to be accepted. Just pointing out the parts I quoted - that the author like me thinks Scotland would absolutely be in EU.

Incidentally, I disagree with the article. It asserts that UK would be the successor state, with Scotland being a new state. There are many legal opinions which say that is not so, because we are not talking about the UK being a single state with a small chunk becoming a new country for the first time. We are talking about the breaking of a union between two countries, Scotland and England ie GB, rendering the UK potentially non-existent.

[ronmcd]

You know, the BNP supports a win-win situation for this discussion
Give the English an English Parliament, and drastically curtail the UK's parliamentary powers.

Why would an English Parliament be a win for the BNP, compared to a UK Parliament?