We Need To Talk About Donald

[Tero]

Bannon making hit lists
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... _list.html

[Woodbutcher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZnlz-b2NnY

[pErvinalia]

They ran up against this unfortunate thing called "reality". The reality is a lot of people are depending on those ACA subsidies and they called their congresscritters. The congress critters, being venal, self-absorbed sociopaths, calculated their odds of being re-elected and decided they'd take a "principled" stand.

I think ACA is here to stay, but probably in a modified version. It's financially untenable at the moment. Whoever comes up with a solution will be in a very good position in 2018 and 2020.

I don't know exactly how ACA works, but why is it financially untenable? If the government can allegedly afford to spend $54bn more per year on the military, then it should be able to afford higher subsidies in ACA.

[Tero]

It's fine. The rates went up, same as all insurance. But the subsidy went up too. It was never in a death spiral. Right now it's sill too small, it needs to be a bigger hunk of the insurance market.

[Animavore]

Quoted for truth.

... one of these Trumpster friends of mine who felt the need to let me know that they weren’t overly happy with some of the things I’ve said about Trump or those who defend him:

You are so arrogant. You only see your side. No one else’s!

[reply]

I’m arrogant? Why, because I know and believe in facts? Unlike political radicals, which most Trump supporters most definitely are, I’m not in this to “be right.” I care about facts, truth, science, history, and what’s real — not what I want to be real because I ignore all of those things. I don’t just make comments for the sake of saying something. Every single day I deal with political radicals, both liberal and conservative, probably around 70 hours a week. While I’m not going to pretend like I know everything, I damn sure know a lot more than many and I’m not going to say anything unless I’ve put some time, thought, and research into it.

I’ve communicated with thousands of Trump supporters since he launched his campaign and almost none of them every know anything factual — including you. I see the nonsense you post, but I don’t comment on it because I know there’s no point. Any source I use to debunk something you think is real you’ll call “fake news,” ignore completely, or make an excuse for Trump because facts don’t matter to Trump supporters. I mean real facts don’t — you all love “alternative facts.”

For a prime example of what I mean, look at this health care bullshit. For years Republicans said they would “repeal and replace Obamacare.” SEVEN YEARS! Now they have all the power they need to do exactly what they promised their voters they would do — yet they haven’t. Why? Because in all of those years promising a “better health care plan,” they clearly never came up with a damn thing. They had to call off their first vote because in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives they couldn’t get “Trumpcare” passed.

This is the party that shut down the government trying to get rid of Obamacare — that never had a plan to replace it with had they been successful. They just said and did all of that to manipulate and fear-monger because as long as President Obama was in office they knew they would never have to actually back up their bold, yet ultimately empty, promises. However, they could manipulate people using that anti-Obamacare propaganda to work them up enough into an irrational frenzy that any and all common sense would fly right out of the window.

Same thing with that stupid damn wall. Mexico will never pay for it, and Trump knew that from the very beginning. But he kept pushing that idiocy because he knew his supporters were dumb enough to believe him. See, you call people like myself “arrogant,” while ignoring the glaring fact that the guy who you voted for last November blatantly treats the people who supported him like mindless sheep who’ll believe anything he says. And I don’t blame him, because that’s a fairly accurate assessment for most.

Oh, and remember when he was going to prosecute Hillary Clinton? Funny, practically right after he was declared the “winner” he said he wasn’t going to. Even though he knew all those times he said she belonged in jail, and if elected he would be about “law and order” by appointing a special prosecutor to go after her, much like his promise to make Mexico pay for his wall, he knew all he had to do was mention her name and like a shepherd leading his flock of sheep — they’d respond exactly how he wanted.

Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her.. oh, never mind.

Question: What happened to bashing Clinton because he claimed she was a shill for Wall Street because she gave a couple of paid speeches for Goldman Sachs? You remember that? I certainly know I do.

Fun Fact: He has seven members of his administration who have ties to Goldman Sachs. The top two people at the U.S. Department of the Treasury are former Goldman Sachs executives. And those are just the people from Goldman Sachs, not the rest of the millionaires and billionaires he brought on board. If Clinton was unethical and a Wall Street sellout as Trump claimed she was for giving a couple of paid speeches to Goldman Sachs, then what do you call the person who stacks his cabinet with several individuals who’ve worked for Goldman Sachs?

His tax returns? Not only did he criticize Mitt Romney for being rather shady about releasing his in 2012, he spent months promising to release his — yet never will. Though it’s not just that he’s clearly never going to release his tax returns, but that he’s continually lied about why he won’t.

Meanwhile, Trump supporters like yourself would be losing your damn minds if Clinton had been elected without releasing hers. Though you all will gladly make excuses for him, even though the IRS has said there’s no reason he couldn’t release his returns even while being audited because, well, TRUMP!

Then there was all those times he called the monthly jobs reports “fake” and the unemployment rate “phony.” Funny, for two-straight months now, his administration has bragged about those numbers — even though his policies have had absolutely nothing to do with them. It’s interesting how suddenly they’re not so fake and phony, isn’t it? Yeah, you might actually chuckle at that, but he was dead serious when he called these numbers under Obama “fake.” It’s like I say, you can tell how much respect someone has for you by how often they lie and how blatant those lies are.

A few weeks ago he literally said, “Nobody knew health care could be so complicated.” Are you kidding me? Every Democrat and rational person in this country knew how difficult fixing our health care system would be. They knew how complicated it was and how full of crap his and the rest of the GOP’s promises were for a “law that provides cheaper, better coverage.”

Another question, whatever happened to that whole “millions of people who voted illegally” nonsense? Here we are, months later, yet he still hasn’t provided a shred of proof that the biggest voting scandal in our nation’s history took place. Isn’t it odd for a president, especially one who declared himself a man of “law and order,” to claim there was unprecedented voter fraud in the country of which he’s the leader, yet he doesn’t seem too concerned about investigating it? One would think that the president, and congressional Republicans who’ve spent years saying voter ID laws are crucial to address the “problem of voter fraud,” would want to know how millions of people voted illegally and just how many currently “elected” officials “won” because of what would be one of the biggest scandals in American political history. Wouldn’t you think? You know, if it were true?

I’m sorry, are my facts, direct quotes from Trump, and simple common sense being a little “too arrogant”? Maybe I should just brag about how everything I do is the best, how nobody will ever be as good for (fill in the group/demographic) as I will be, never take the blame for anything wrong I do, and personally attack others who criticize me. Would that make me more humble?

[reply back]

I’m not responding to that because you choose not to listen to anyone, your mind is made up.

https://forwardprogressives.com/trumpst ... -response/

You can't get through to these people. The Dems are probably going to be the ones left to clean up the mess and as some of the idiotic decisions and incompetence which happened during the Repubs term will spill into theirs the Repubs will then blame the Dems and manufacture dissatisfaction and the whole cycle begins again.

[Brian Peacock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZnlz-b2NnY

[Animavore]

^ I love the comments on that video from Trump supporting idiots 2 months ago getting hyped for the inauguration 2 days hence all believing he was going to get straight on and do shit.

I wonder how many are now reeling from the betrayal, and how many have dug their heels in further.

[Animavore]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 50636.html

There's something fucking wrong with this guy. :picard:

[tattuchu]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 50636.html

There's something fucking wrong with this guy. :picard:

He's definitely not right in the head.

[Brian Peacock]

He's a one eh, that Donald?

[JimC]

So, the man with thousands of nuclear missiles at his command is an incoherent, rambling lunatic?

Interesting...

[Scot Dutchy]

I presume there must be a fail safe system in place. You cant have a lunatic running around with the codes.

[Tero]

Son in law to help Trump become dictator with SWAT team. Nazi boots optional.
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl= ... pt0-394141

[Hermit]

I presume there must be a fail safe system in place.

There isn't.

[rainbow]

I presume there must be a fail safe system in place. You cant have a lunatic running around with the codes.

We need a remake of Dr Strangelove.