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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by Forty Two » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:51 pm

pErvin wrote:
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pErvin wrote:She said something on instagram. If she said "niggers burn in hell" then she deserved a good bitch slap. Do we know what she said?
Well, actually, no she wouldn't deserve a bitch slap,
Yeah she would. Not in naive liberal-land. But back in the real world..
In a world of actual adults, even offensive opinions and slurs are not appropriately responded to with violence.
You really live in a fucking bubble, don't you? Go down to you local pub and go up to a group of black people and say "niggers burn in hell". Yes, I'm sure you'll all sit down and have a nice discussion about the truths or falsehoods of such an assertion. :roll:
We have murders, too. That doesn't mean it's "appropriate," does it? As I said, offensive opinions and slurs are not "appropriately" responded to with violence.

People may want to react similarly to SJWs hurling their insults against the "fucking white males" and such, but nobody would suggest that it's appropriate to punch AIDS Skrillex in the mouth because he hurls racial slurs and racist comments against white people.
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:44 am

You really live in a bubble.
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by laklak » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:45 am

Yeah I'll accept the results. Isn't much choice, after all. I recall a certain unpleasantness back in the mid 1800s when one group of people declared the Constitution didn't apply to them and decided to take matters into their own hands. I'd rather not repeat that in my lifetime, thanks anyway. At least wait for a year or so, I've got too much work left to do on the boat if I'm going to be living on it for the next decade or so.
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by rainbow » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:13 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:To be fair the main stream media have been telling the public that Trump is Hitler incarnate.
You are right of course, Dildo.

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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by Tero » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:06 pm

Trump: I'll take your healthcare away!
Hillary: You can keep it. You can keep some of your guns too.
Result: Trump.

It's been an extremely divisive election and a lot of people this year are having trouble accepting the outcome. Some — like California Sen. Barbara Boxer — have argued in the wake of the results that it's time to get rid of the current system altogether.

(Boxer) The Democrat introduced legislation Tuesday that would abolish the Electoral College and use the popular vote instead to determine the presidency. She's got public opinion behind her. According to a 2013 Gallup poll, 63 percent of Americans would get rid of the electoral college.

Abolishing the Electoral College would require an amendment to the U.S. Constitution — which would need a two-thirds majority vote in both the House and the Senate and then it would have to be ratified by 38 states.
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:14 pm

pErvin wrote:You really live in a bubble.
You are not understanding the difference between behavior that occurs and behavior which is appropriate. Of course, mouthing off in a bar will often get you a punch in the mouth. That doesn't make it right.

Living in a bubble entail denying the reality of what occurs in actual fact. That's not what I'm doing.

If an SJW goes into a bar and starts hollering at guys drinking about how they're white racists, that SJW might get a mouthful of knuckles, too. I'd not suggest it's appropriate for him to get hit, though. Would you?
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:19 pm

Absolutely. Arsehole behaviours should have consequences.
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:23 pm

Tero wrote:Trump: I'll take your healthcare away!


Trump hasn't suggested he is taking anyone's healthcare away. quite the opposite - he has said that everyone needs to be covered, and that he means to repeal and replace Obamacare with something that works without, to paraphrase, fucking everyone up the ass with ridiculous premium increases.

Remember, Obama sold us his bill of goods by claiming that we needed to pass the ACA, or we'd have our premiums continue to increase. The ACA was supposed to stop that. Also, the ACA was to allow us to keep our plans and our doctors, which was, of course, total bullshit.
Tero wrote: Hillary: You can keep it. You can keep some of your guns too.
Hillary has suggested taking away some guns? Which ones?
Tero wrote: Result: Trump.
Indeed, because large swaths of the population didn't want Obamacare, and now see it for the horsehit that it is. That's why the thing had to be forced through like a bowling ball through a straw, because people really weren't all that enthused about it in the first place. Only dipshits who didn't care what it actually required or said wanted it. Dipshits who just figure, and to this day still say, that the intent was to get more people covered, so that means it's a good thing. Dumbasses like that supported it.
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It's been an extremely divisive election and a lot of people this year are having trouble accepting the outcome.
They were horrified about the possibility that others might have trouble accepting the outcome, if it went the other way.
Tero wrote: Some — like California Sen. Barbara Boxer — have argued in the wake of the results that it's time to get rid of the current system altogether.
Fair enough. Make the argument and let's amend the constitution, if it's what is desired. But, remember, the rules aren't amended ex post facto. If there was no electoral college, the campaigns would have been run differently and the outcome would not necessarily have been exactly the same. for example, Trump would have had to pile a lot of resources into California and New York. Under the EC system, he could give those states up for dead, and concentrate on the rest of the country. If it was a pure popular vote, he would have been going after every last vote he could garner in California and New York. So, we can't know for certain that just because Hillary won the "votes counted" in this election, that if the rules were different in advance, those same results would have happened.
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(Boxer) The Democrat introduced legislation Tuesday that would abolish the Electoral College and use the popular vote instead to determine the presidency. She's got public opinion behind her. According to a 2013 Gallup poll, 63 percent of Americans would get rid of the electoral college.
What percentage of the population even know what the Electoral College is, specifically, and how it works?
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:24 pm

pErvin wrote:Absolutely. Arsehole behaviours should have consequences.
Sure, but not all consequences are appropriate. That's why we see the media going crazy over some guy at a rally getting pushed or punched. They don't say "that protester was behaving like an arsehole and deserved to get hit." They generally say it's wrong to punch when someone else is just talking. Well, except if it's a Trump supporter getting hit, then it's justifiable anger spurred on by Trump's inflammatory rhetoric.....
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by Tero » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:09 pm

Hillary was going to take the guns...whatever kind...from certified loonies. Next move would have been them guns that shoot lots of bullets.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:19 pm

She was? How was she going to do that? She could just write an executive order that anyone certified a loonie would not be allowed to have guns, and that semiautomatic weapons would be banned?

Recall, automatic weapons are already very limited. However, semiautomatic hunting rifles are not. The number of bullets fired by all semiautomatics are the same: one at a time, per trigger pull. The all fire the same number of bullets.
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by Tero » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:49 pm

Do you need the semiautomatic so you can cut the deer in half with bullets? Where is the sport in that? One or two bullets is all you need. Practice more!

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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:10 pm

Tero wrote:Do you need the semiautomatic so you can cut the deer in half with bullets? Where is the sport in that? One or two bullets is all you need. Practice more!
Most hunters hunt with semiautomatics. It doesn't cut deer in half. A semiautomatic does not fire multiple bullets in series on one trigger pull. It just fires one bullet per trigger pull.

Here is an example of a semiauto hunting rifle made by Browning:



Ban it!

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Browning BAR Safari - Semiauto -
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:28 am

Mmmm gun porn... :drool:
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Re: Will you accept the election results?

Post by JimC » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:58 am

The point that 42 is missing about the wide prevalence in the US of military-style semi-automatics with large magazines is that they, unlike his carefully chosen sample of hunting rifles, are not particularly good for hunting, but brilliant for shooting as many people as possible in a mall or a school...
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