Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 09, 2013 2:37 am

not mob rule.

Seriously, just fucking wiki it or something. I'm sick of having debates around simplistic concepts. The internet is fucking killing me.
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by Collector1337 » Thu May 09, 2013 2:50 am

rEvolutionist wrote:not mob rule.

Seriously, just fucking wiki it or something. I'm sick of having debates around simplistic concepts. The internet is fucking killing me.
Sounds lazy.

You claimed Communism doesn't have to be authoritarian to work, without any explanation. All I'm asking is for you to explain why you believe that.
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 09, 2013 2:53 am

It's in the fucking definition. As I said. Simple stuff. I'm tired of the level of stupidity on the internet. I'm going to live in a cave for 10 years or something.
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by Collector1337 » Thu May 09, 2013 3:09 am

rEvolutionist wrote:It's in the fucking definition. As I said. Simple stuff. I'm tired of the level of stupidity on the internet. I'm going to live in a cave for 10 years or something.
I'm not asking for a definition. I'm asking why YOU believe it.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 09, 2013 3:16 am

The same reason I believe the concept of flight involves lift. It just does.
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by charlou » Thu May 09, 2013 3:26 am

rEv, anarchy as a concept is oft misunderstood too.

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JimC wrote:It is perhaps possible for some form of democracy to co-exist with a non-authoritarian version of communism, but it would be a very different sort of society. Probably, we can't get there from here...

And not easy to achieve, given how hominids normally behave...

In fact, a political will of the wisp...
A little bit too idealistic, wouldn't you say?

Especially considering, "how hominids normally behave..."
As I read it, you're repeating part of what Jim said, in other words. (I've bolded the part for you)
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 09, 2013 3:33 am

RiverF wrote:rEv, anarchy as a concept is oft misunderstood too.
Yep. Anarchism is naively considered a juvenile ideology by the uneducated, communism oppressive and authoritarian, and socialism only Marxism. I'm sick of having to clear up simple misconceptions. The world is doomed from idiocy. I give up.

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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by Svartalf » Thu May 09, 2013 7:52 am

and it is... Anarchy, like democracy is the kind of political regime that can work only for a people of demi gods, not of humans.
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by JimC » Thu May 09, 2013 7:57 am

Collector1337 wrote:
JimC wrote:It is perhaps possible for some form of democracy to co-exist with a non-authoritarian version of communism, but it would be a very different sort of society. Probably, we can't get there from here...

And not easy to achieve, given how hominids normally behave...

In fact, a political will of the wisp...
A little bit too idealistic, wouldn't you say?

Especially considering, "how hominids normally behave..."
The "perhaps" and the "not easy to achieve" may not have registered... :roll:

I was making the point that I consider it an unlikely combination, but not necessarily impossible...
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by Azathoth » Fri May 10, 2013 9:27 am

Svartalf wrote:and it is... Anarchy, like democracy is the kind of political regime that can work only for a people of demi gods, not of humans.
I have an idea. How about through selective breeding and culling of the inferior we work on that. :{D
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by cronus » Fri May 10, 2013 9:41 am

Ah! The politics is here I see? Care if I rejoin the debate? :coffee:

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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by Svartalf » Fri May 10, 2013 9:51 am

Azathoth wrote:
Svartalf wrote:and it is... Anarchy, like democracy is the kind of political regime that can work only for a people of demi gods, not of humans.
I have an idea. How about through selective breeding and culling of the inferior we work on that. :{D
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by cronus » Fri May 10, 2013 10:09 am

Svartalf wrote:
Azathoth wrote:
Svartalf wrote:and it is... Anarchy, like democracy is the kind of political regime that can work only for a people of demi gods, not of humans.
I have an idea. How about through selective breeding and culling of the inferior we work on that. :{D
You can't breed human nature out of people.
Maybe can to some extent. People today are almost certainly, on the average, less blood-thirsty than the Romans. It all takes so much time and there most likely needs to be massive culls of the idiots once in a while for it to work.
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by Svartalf » Fri May 10, 2013 9:34 pm

They'll backslide in a trice given nice juicy gladiatorial games.
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Re: Which? poll says many 'borrowing money for food'

Post by Pappa » Fri May 10, 2013 10:02 pm

I don't know, which poll says many 'borrowing money for food'?
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