Corruption in Alberta, Canada, 'Mafia' or someone else...

[Thinking Aloud]

"Six words - irrefutable evidence trumps paranoia."

That's four words.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I can't help but notice that you are using the opinions of the 2 doctors that you claim to be Mafia stooges as a reason not to seek a further medical opinion. In fact, you have done this in 2 posts to my knowledge.

Either they are legit, their diagnoses were correct and they had good reason to keep you under observaion (as well as good reason to later declare you fit and well and discharge you.)
Or they are in the pay of your enemies and NOTHING that they say can be accepted as fact.

You can't have it both ways, Brett.

[FBM]

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ainty-bias

[Cunt]

BrettA, I have listened as carefully as I can, and while many odd things have happened, stringing them together seems quite a stretch.

Can you give equal time to someone who disagrees with you?

How about trying a different doc? The ones in Calgary were obviously not right for you, but did you know that Toronto has some of the best mental health services in the country? http://toronto.cmha.ca/ct_mh_services_i ... rvices.asp
Stay in touch, and stay well, my friend.

[Brian Peacock]

Erm... While I agree with most of what you say, Brian - and that should have been obvious to you before you wrote - we already went over the 'see your doctor' perhaps 3 or 4 times and I'm thousands of miles away from her and have been 'cleared' by much, much more qualified doctors who've spent much more time with me... almost infinitely more time on this 'issue' than my doc. Is that quite plain to you, Brian?

Re my being an unreliable witness, that's why I'm in much closer communications with others, one of whom wrote - as you know:

"Six words - irrefutable evidence trumps paranoia."

And yes, I do know in my heart of hearts that there is something (very) wrong about this whole business... see, we have agreement :-)! But some things are becoming increasingly droll, as well ;-)!

Perhaps these 'droll' repetitions are all coming from the same direction Brett - from concern.

You can dismiss them if you wish, but do you not think that they communicate something meaningful - even if it is something you don't necessarily want to hear, or accept or want to deal with? You know that your doctor is only the first point of contact for dealing with this don't you? Of course you do - her particular skills are not really the issue are they?

Though, as you say, you have been 'cleared' by doctors in the past this does not mean that there are no 'issues' that you need to address here and now in the present, does it? You know what they have 'cleared' you of or for don't you(?), and this is not necessarily my immediate concern. What I have tried to outline is that even though evidences always trump assumptions, what counts as evidence for what you have presented here is very weak - too weak to support your contentions as you have presented them. That is difficult for you to accept I know.

You have had your words reflected back to you Brett, and that is obviously challenging to both your views and your mindset, but it does, at least, offer a view on the things you describe from an objective, disinterested, external standpoint. Take from those external reflections what you will, but please do not cast those who challenge you mindset as mere naysayers, as misguided, and/or as misinformed on the issues you have presented. To do that is to only focus on what is written while avoiding the fundamentals of what is being communicated to you.

I can certainly understand why you might want to put aside those communications, more so than you might imagine, but I simply ask you not to be so quick to dismiss them, and to see them for what they really are - expressions of genuine, honest, sincere concern for a fellow human being.

Take care Brett,
Brian.

[BrettA]

"Six words - irrefutable evidence trumps paranoia."

That's four words.

"Six words - irrefutable evidence trumps paranoia."

Oh, come on, TA... You know that's six just as well as I.

[Thinking Aloud]

"Six words - irrefutable evidence trumps paranoia."

That's four words.

"Six words - irrefutable evidence trumps paranoia."

Oh, come on, TA... You know that's six just as well as I.

[BrettA]

BrettA, I have listened as carefully as I can, and while many odd things have happened, stringing them together seems quite a stretch.

Can you give equal time to someone who disagrees with you?

Sure... What time would you like? I'm given some and willing to give more to you, but the link ain't to *you* at all! Wha'cha want?

Grace and peace be to you.
John Oooops, Brett (WonderCafe.ca's RevJohn expressed similar concern to you guys then after my reply, the thread was deleted... LOL).

[Seth]

Brett, you seem to be assuming an all-seeing, all-knowing "mafia" that's tracking you everywhere you go and is inserting "stooges" at ever level of your interactions with the public. Reason alone should indicate that this is disordered thinking, but the problem with paranoia is that it doesn't seem to be disordered thinking.

So, you might try to reason your way to help. First, divest yourself of any objects you think might be used to "track" you, like credit cards. Draw some cash from your accounts from a random bank and then mail your credit cards and other devices, like your computer, your smart phone or anything that you fear might be used to track you to someone you trust and ask them to hold them for you. Buy a cheap pre-paid phone at a random Radio Shack or Best Buy so you can communicate in an emergency.

Then, proceed to a random city by bus, without showing anyone your ID, and randomly select a psychiatric doctor from a phone book. Contact the doctor from a random pay phone and explain that you need a consultation. Explain the circumstances in general, but DO NOT TELL HIM YOUR REAL NAME. Assume a pseudonym so that anyone who might be "tracking" you will not hear your name. If you're worried about voice-recognition software being used by these government/mafia agents, then find a kind stranger to make the call for you.

Go see the randomly selected psychiatrist without doing anything to reveal your true identity, pay in cash, and be guided by that doctor's advice. The factual chance that this random doctor in a random city contacted anonymously will also happenstantially be a "stooge" of the Mafia is preceded by so many zeros that to believe it's true, or even possible should itself indicate seriously disordered thinking that needs immediate treatment.

That's about the only thing I can think of that will get you some relief from this conspiracy theory paranoia.

We care what happens to you here, Brett, but you must seek some psychiatric help immediately and get treatment. We can't, shouldn't and won't try to diagnose or treat you here, we can just try to encourage you to seek reliable professional help and submit to a treatment plan that will restore your sanity.

Best of luck.

[BrettA]

LOL... Funnier and funnier. My thread's been deleted 2ce on RatSkep now and I'm no longer permitted to read the forum. Good thing I'm posting elsewhere and emailing the shit out'a this - I hope they're gettin' through ;-)

Cheers, George Brett Aubrey - Calgary, AB.

[BrettA]

Brett, ....

Best of luck.

Great idea - I'll get right on that... or I would if I could contact my doc on a Saturday. And I would if I can contact her by phone, which I can't.

[BrettA]

And I would if my Skype was operational... but seems not the case - again :-)!

[Seth]

LOL... Funnier and funnier. My thread's been deleted 2ce on RatSkep now and I'm no longer permitted to read the forum. Good thing I'm posting elsewhere and emailing the shit out'a this - I hope they're gettin' through ;-)

Cheers, George Brett Aubrey - Calgary, AB.

They have a policy there that they do not allow members to engage in amateur psychology with people who show up who are obviously mentally disturbed. This is ostensibly to prevent the forum from becoming legally liable in the event that the disturbed person does him/herself or someone else harm as a result of "advice" given on the forum.

It's actually a very reasonable and sensible rule, and I'd recommend that we do the same thing in a slightly less radical manner.

I think we (the other members and Mods) should agree that any advice other than that which encourages you to seek professional psychiatric help ought to be censored, to protect the forum, its members, and you. You need help. Please get some.

And with that I will withdraw from the thread so as not to exacerbate the problem I'm trying to describe.

Best of luck Brett. I hope you can find what you need from a qualified professional, but I don't want to be involved further in your delusional thinking.

[Rum]

Thank you Seth. I have just expressed concern in the mods forum that people are getting sucked in - in an inappropriate manner. We don't do censorship here but I would like off my own bat (this is not from mod discussion) to request that members follow Seth's suggestion and encourage Brett to seek help without engaging in discussion directly about the issues that are bothering him.

We all support you Brett and feel concern, but the issues you are bringing to the forum are about what is inside your head. You should seek help, from whatever source is most easily available.

[Thinking Aloud]

LOL... Funnier and funnier. My thread's been deleted 2ce on RatSkep now and I'm no longer permitted to read the forum.

It's possible that if the staff there moved the thread to a hidden staff-only subforum (for instance if someone was concerned about your personal info being publicly accessible they may have moved it out of general view) you'd get a "you are not authorised to read this forum" message if you're trying to get to the thread directly from its URL. Is that what you're seeing, or is it that you can't get onto RatSkep at all?