Mississippi Conservatives - god help us!

[Coito ergo sum]

What's even more depressing about that clip is that the people interviewed weren't cherry picked, according to the filmmaker. Unfortunately since she's the daughter of Nancy Pelosi I'm sure most conservatives will dismiss it.

Why would one take her word for it that they weren't cherry picked? And, why wouldn't someone be skeptical about it given who made it?

I've been to Mississippi. I didn't find the people in the above video to be representative of people there. I am opposed to the Bible Belt politics and Christian conservatism, but I have to say that I can't believe anyone can watch that video and say that it is representative of Mississippians. The people on that video are toothless, racist, and idiotic. If one is claiming that such folks are not "cherry picked" then one is making a serious indictment of the typical Mississippian.

[Coito ergo sum]

Her next interview will be in the inner city...so, if her good faith is in question because of her parentage, what would restore it, interviewing a bunch of WASPS on Martha's Vineyard?

What would you say of a video made by one of the Bush twins which cast a similar light on liberal voters by interviewing a few idiots?

What would restore it would be some objective evidence of good faith and fair dealing, such as -- the substantive involvement of a person from the opposite side of the aisle. That could be one way. There may be others.

[Coito ergo sum]

What's even more depressing about that clip is that the people interviewed weren't cherry picked, according to the filmmaker. Unfortunately since she's the daughter of Nancy Pelosi I'm sure most conservatives will dismiss it.

Not cherry picked? I don't believe that for a second.

Ayaan, you're from Mississippi, what do you think? Or FBM for that matter...Tennessee has pretty similar politics.

I find it fairly surprising that you would suggest that folks from Mississippi are fairly represented by the toothless, racist, idiots in the video. Not to mention that the video is likely carefully edited.

[Coito ergo sum]

Why does a Briton ask a nonexistent entity for help against a bunch of yahoos whose problem is not going to cross the Atlantic anytime soon?

Your question is in semi-jest I am sure, but the truth is I find myself still amazed that the richest country in the world (still - on an individual income basis) with so much about it to admire (still!) can still surprise me with levels of crass ignorance and stupidity, despite the fact that I know very well those levels of ignorance and stupidity are rather too common all over the world..but oddly sometimes more so it seems there.

It may well be a human, rather than an American feature.



Not cherry picked?

[MrJonno]

There are many many thick as shit Brits , who are racist , how no concept of rational thinking but try finding many who actually even know where their nearest church is (and I 'm not counting Pubs with church in their name). The idea of any ignorant little shit wanting to make it hard for a woman to have an abortion is absurd. Your local chav wanting to make it harder for a woman to have an abortion, you might as well promise to double the taxes on fags?

[Coito ergo sum]

There are many many thick as shit Brits , who are racist , how no concept of rational thinking but try finding many who actually even know where their nearest church is (and I 'm not counting Pubs with church in their name). The idea of any ignorant little shit wanting to make it hard for a woman to have an abortion is absurd. Your local chav wanting to make it harder for a woman to have an abortion, you might as well promise to double the taxes on fags?

You don't think there are people wanting to make it hard for a woman to have an abortion in the UK? You think that is "absurd?"

According to this article, Brits can only get abortions up through 24 weeks (presumably with exceptions thereafter if it's, like, a threat to the mother or something). So, your law does make it hard for a woman to get an abortion, after a certain point.

A majority of women in Britain want the abortion laws to be tightened to make it harder, or impossible, for them to terminate a pregnancy.
Evidence of a widespread public demand for the government to further restrict women's right to have an abortion is revealed in a remarkable Observer opinion poll. The findings have reignited the highly-charged debate on abortion, and increased the pressure on Tony Blair to review the current time limits.

The survey by MORI shows that 47 per cent of women believe the legal limit for an abortion should be cut from its present 24 weeks, and another 10 per cent want the practice outlawed altogether. Among the population overall, reducing the upper limit was the preferred option backed by the largest proportion of respondents, 42 per cent, made up of a 36-47 per cent split among men and women.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jan/2 ... icservices

A poll of adults in the UK has shown 43% of Catholics agreed that it should be legal for a woman to have an abortion when she has an unwanted pregnancy with only 27% disagreeing. A further 20% said they neither disagreed or agreed

http://catholicactionuk.blogspot.com/20 ... ainst.html

So, it appears that there are lots of people in the UK that would limit women's right to abortions, and even a large minority who would make it illegal altogether.

Ireland is strongly pro-Life, and abortion is illegal there, isn't it?

[maiforpeace]

What's even more depressing about that clip is that the people interviewed weren't cherry picked, according to the filmmaker. Unfortunately since she's the daughter of Nancy Pelosi I'm sure most conservatives will dismiss it.

Not cherry picked? I don't believe that for a second.

Ayaan, you're from Mississippi, what do you think? Or FBM for that matter...Tennessee has pretty similar politics.

I find it fairly surprising that you would suggest that folks from Mississippi are fairly represented by the toothless, racist, idiots in the video. Not to mention that the video is likely carefully edited.

I suppose I should chime in, since I lived the first 20-something years of my life in that state. The people interviewed in the OP video are pretty representative of the opinions, reasoning skills and dental health you'll find among the poor and un(der)educated population of MS. And that's a large chunk of the population. However, there are university towns where those opinions do not prevail, and there are well-educated professionals, mostly in the larger cities, who reject such conservatism. But they have to be quiet about it.

It is not a state for someone who is out-spoken as a liberal - or as an atheist. Conservatives hold a lot of power in the state. For many people, the only reason to have universities is because of football.

A year or so before I left the state I got involved with an atheist group. Once we outgrew meeting at someone's house, getting together became a problem. We simply couldn't meet in public as an atheist group because people could lose their jobs. When I left, we were meeting in an art studio owned by the friend of one group's members.

So, they weren't cherry picked then. Thanks for confirming that.

Talk about cherry picking...you just rolled right past this post CES. Yes, I trust that people from that state are probably the best people to ask about what that state is like.

[Coito ergo sum]

Nothing Ayaan wrote indicates that the people in the video were not cherry picked. And, Ayaan clarified that it was a religious, conservative dominated state and she stated that her atheist group had trouble meeting. How does that translate to the toothless, racist dopes in the OP video somehow being representative of Mississippians?

[Coito ergo sum]

Could be it is people in general --

The article quotes Tom Jensen of the Democratic polling firm Public Policy Polling who admits, “The first lesson you learn as a pollster is that people are stupid. . . I tell a client trying to make sense of numbers on a poll that are inherently contradictory that at least once a week.”

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer. ... pid/427521

[maiforpeace]

Nothing Ayaan wrote indicates that the people in the video were not cherry picked. And, Ayaan clarified that it was a religious, conservative dominated state and she stated that her atheist group had trouble meeting. How does that translate to the toothless, racist dopes in the OP video somehow being representative of Mississippians?

I suppose I should chime in, since I lived the first 20-something years of my life in that state. The people interviewed in the OP video are pretty representative of the opinions, reasoning skills and dental health you'll find among the poor and un(der)educated population of MS. And that's a large chunk of the population. However, there are university towns where those opinions do not prevail, and there are well-educated professionals, mostly in the larger cities, who reject such conservatism. But they have to be quiet about it.

It is not a state for someone who is out-spoken as a liberal - or as an atheist. Conservatives hold a lot of power in the state. For many people, the only reason to have universities is because of football.

A year or so before I left the state I got involved with an atheist group. Once we outgrew meeting at someone's house, getting together became a problem. We simply couldn't meet in public as an atheist group because people could lose their jobs. When I left, we were meeting in an art studio owned by the friend of one group's members.

[Coito ergo sum]

Nothing Ayaan wrote indicates that the people in the video were not cherry picked. And, Ayaan clarified that it was a religious, conservative dominated state and she stated that her atheist group had trouble meeting. How does that translate to the toothless, racist dopes in the OP video somehow being representative of Mississippians?

I suppose I should chime in, since I lived the first 20-something years of my life in that state. The people interviewed in the OP video are pretty representative of the opinions, reasoning skills and dental health you'll find among the poor and un(der)educated population of MS. And that's a large chunk of the population. However, there are university towns where those opinions do not prevail, and there are well-educated professionals, mostly in the larger cities, who reject such conservatism. But they have to be quiet about it.

It is not a state for someone who is out-spoken as a liberal - or as an atheist. Conservatives hold a lot of power in the state. For many people, the only reason to have universities is because of football.

A year or so before I left the state I got involved with an atheist group. Once we outgrew meeting at someone's house, getting together became a problem. We simply couldn't meet in public as an atheist group because people could lose their jobs. When I left, we were meeting in an art studio owned by the friend of one group's members.

FBM is not from MS. I thought Ayaan was, though, which is why I thought someone was waiting for her opinion. The material you highlighted was from FBM.

Moreover, Ayaan said that the people in the OP were representative of the opinions and reasoning skills, and dental health, among "poor and undereducated" people in MS. If you look to the poor and undereducated in New York City, you'll find stupid shit too.

If your allegation is that the video was intended to show the views and attitudes of desperately poor, white trash, uneducated, barely literate idiots, then you may have an argument that it was representative and not cherry picked. If your allegation is that the video is representative of Mississippi voters or Mississippi conservatives, then I think you have a long way to go to substantiate that rather, well....illiberal, position.

[Coito ergo sum]

Maher is in your camp, though.

How is a divorce in Mississippi like a tornado?

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Somebody is going to lose a trailer.

How do they know the toothbrush was invented in Mississippi?

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

If it was invented anywhere else it would have been called a teethbrush.

What does a Mississippi girl say right after she loses her virginity?

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Git' offen me, Pa! Yer crushin' mah smokes!

[mistermack]

That clip is a fraud, it could never be filmed in the US, because all Americans have lovely teeth.
I know that for an indisputable fact, because Coito said so.

It must have been filmed in the UK and dubbed. I would think Scotland, as they have the worst teeth in the country.
It's the IRN BRU don't ya know.

[Coito ergo sum]

That clip is a fraud, it could never be filmed in the US, because all Americans have lovely teeth.
I know that for an indisputable fact, because Coito said so.

It must have been filmed in the UK and dubbed. I would think Scotland, as they have the worst teeth in the country.
It's the IRN BRU don't ya know.

1. Coito did not say so.
2. Nobody suggested it wasn't filmed in Mississippi.

[mistermack]

1. Coito did not say so.
2. Nobody suggested it wasn't filmed in Mississippi.

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