Coito ergo sum wrote:
Frenchness has always, not just this time in history, and not just among right-wingers, been viewed negatively, and Americans didn't invent it. We got it from the Brits.
But, it is correct, it's not the knowledge of another language that is the issue. It's the Frenchness. The French and France have an air about them of effete snobbery, and an attitude of superiority.
It's a strange one - if it wasn't for the French, the Revolution would not have succeeded.
Still, I doubt if the French care what Amerikans think of 'em.......and militarly nothing to worry about either - simply because the average yank couldn't find the USA on a world map, let alone a corner of Europeland.......
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Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:Maybe the yanks could send the Statue of Liberty back to where it came from?
People here seem to have forgotten the enormous debt we owe the French. If it weren't for them, we'd still be a British colony. Yeah, I think we should give the statue back. It doesn't mean anything anymore. But I suspect many Americans are too stupid to even realize it was a gift from France to begin with. Or, if they do know it was a gift, they've no idea why it was given. France had a crush on us, apparently. Unfortunately, those feelings weren't reciprocated.
People think "queue" is just "q" followed by 4 silent letters.
Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:Maybe the yanks could send the Statue of Liberty back to where it came from?
People here seem to have forgotten the enormous debt we owe the French. If it weren't for them, we'd still be a British colony. Yeah, I think we should give the statue back. It doesn't mean anything anymore. But I suspect many Americans are too stupid to even realize it was a gift from France to begin with. Or, if they do know it was a gift, they've no idea why it was given. France had a crush on us, apparently. Unfortunately, those feelings weren't reciprocated.
Hey, we inspired The Terror.
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Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:It's a strange one - if it wasn't for the French, the Revolution would not have succeeded.
Specifically, if it weren't for Louis XVI and French aristrocrats like the Marquis de Lafayette and Compte Rochambeau, the American Revolution would not have succeeded. Maybe if France had kept the Bourbon monarchy instead of going for folks like Napoleon, Americans would still feel differently about it.
Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:It's a strange one - if it wasn't for the French, the Revolution would not have succeeded.
Specifically, if it weren't for Louis XVI and French aristrocrats like the Marquis de Lafayette and Compte Rochambeau, the American Revolution would not have succeeded. Maybe if France had kept the Bourbon monarchy instead of going for folks like Napoleon, Americans would still feel differently about it.
Battle of the Virginia Capes.
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Ian wrote:I don't think it's the ability to speak a foreign language that is the case here. Mr. Huntsman speaks Mandarin Chinese, and I think most people, even the most knuckle-dragging Republicans, would consider that to be a big plus. George W. Bush spoke Spanish. It's the particular language: French. At this time in US history, it invites a certain amount of antipathy among right-wingers.
Frenchness has always, not just this time in history, and not just among right-wingers, been viewed negatively, and Americans didn't invent it. We got it from the Brits.
But, it is correct, it's not the knowledge of another language that is the issue. It's the Frenchness. The French and France have an air about them of effete snobbery, and an attitude of superiority.
We can't help it if the beauty of our language, not to mention the superiority of our culture and achievements just make the rest of the world feel inferior.
MrJonno wrote:There is a British rivally with the French going back a long time but the idea that every applied to the language is very silly. If you don't like a country you learn its language so you can insult its people and they will understand it
Shut up you delusuional, pudding eating, lash and rum craving rosbeef.
drl2 wrote:The right wing in this country has gone to a lot of effort to demonize French over the years as effete snobbish pansies (does the phrase "cheese eating surrender monkey" ring any bells?) - this is just the natural progression of expressing their core values: myopia, nationalism, and anti-intellectualism. Based on their last few candidates, the requirement seems to be that you went to college but didn't learn anything there.
Remember when France openly opposed the Iraq war with it's speech at the UN? Republican members of Congress were outraged, calling them traitors and no longer an ally, and very loudly insisted that they no longer call the french fries served at the congressional canteen french fries and renamed them "freedom fries". However, the fine dining establishments all over Washington D.C. saw no decrease in the amount of expensive French wine purchased.
Fucking hypocrites.
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There are real dumbasses who don't understand that an ally's job is to help you not do something stupid... slavisshly following you is what you expect from client states.
Svartalf wrote:We can't help it if the beauty of our language, not to mention the superiority of our culture and achievements just make the rest of the world snicker.
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