Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

[Seth]

Actually, it is. Also, Che was a murderous thug and got what he deserved far too late to save the hundreds of people he PERSONALLY murdered.

So...I suppose you must think that US or Canadian, or British soldiers have personally murdered hundreds 'cough cough hack hack' thousands of people and deserve to be executed.

Che marched Cuban citizens he considered to be "counterrevolutionaries" out the back door and shot them in the head, personally, and had them buried in shallow graves. You're trying on the "Two Wrongs Make a Right" fallacy here. Doesn't matter what anyone else did, Che viciously murdered Cuban civilians merely because they didn't want to live under Communism, and for no other reason.

[Seth]

Pol Pot has nothing to do whatsoever with communism, Marxism or Socialism.

He was a Maoist communist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot

Saloth Sar (30 November 1925 – 15 April 1998),[1][2] better known as Pol Pot, (Khmer: ប៉ុល ពត), was a Cambodian Maoist revolutionary who led the Khmer Rouge[3] from 1963 until his death in 1998

First sentence in the article.

I don't like Seth any better than you do, but let's try to stick to reality here.

Hes was a nutter, not a Marxist or a Communist. wiki? really? The same can be said about western "democracies"...they "call" themselves "democracies"...doesn't mean they are. BTW...never said I "liked" or didn't "like" anyone, and "reality" isn't reflected too well in a short wiki quote.

You're engaging in classic Marxist historical revisionism. Deny, deny, deny, then mumble, obfuscate, pettifog and lie through your teeth. But we know the truth. So do most people.

[Seth]

Pol Pot has nothing to do whatsoever with communism, Marxism or Socialism.

He was a Maoist communist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot

Saloth Sar (30 November 1925 – 15 April 1998),[1][2] better known as Pol Pot, (Khmer: ប៉ុល ពត), was a Cambodian Maoist revolutionary who led the Khmer Rouge[3] from 1963 until his death in 1998

First sentence in the article.

I don't like Seth any better than you do, but let's try to stick to reality here.

Hes was a nutter, not a Marxist or a Communist. wiki? really? The same can be said about western "democracies"...they "call" themselves "democracies"...doesn't mean they are. BTW...never said I "liked" or didn't "like" anyone, and "reality" isn't reflected too well in a short wiki quote.

I agree with him i mean i suspect unlike seth and other anti-commo fuckwits i've actually studied the bad guys associated with communism so i guess i would know more than people who just throw around pol pot and stalin as a smear campaign.

If you look at stalin and pol pot they were no different whatsoever to any capitalist dictator they just happen to use communism as a vehicle for their power not too dissimilar as one would use the military or mass parties of other ideologies to seize power.

There is a list of capitalist dictators as long as my arm that have done despicable things and killed millions and on the whole killed more than stalin mao and pol pot. I mean ol' hitler gave them a good leg up in those stakes and that isn't even scratching the surface.

However their belief in capitalism is NEVER mentioned ever ever ever. I suspect because that would mean that capitalism is put in a bad light and its in the ruling classes interest to put communism in a bad light and the minimise the bad effects capitalism has on humanity.

Two Wrongs Make a Right fallacy and denial of obvious, well-known, documented historical facts. Boy, you two are quite a pair in that regard.

[Robert_S]

Seth: I just noticed that the bottom line of your sig has an odd number of quotation marks.

Please fix that or I shall be forced to draw the attention of the Rationalia Grammar Enforcement Unit to it.

Also, please play nice everyone. That's just a request from Robert the person.

Kthx.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You love money more than life itself, so don't play the put up or shut game.

Prove it. Put up or shut up, liar.

Face it, Seeth, you sold your soul long ago. You live in a Hell of your own making, gilded but still a prison.

And you're the one with the Two Wrongs stupidity, pointing to non-religious people when the vast majority of dickheads were religious.

That hardly excuses the non-religious dickheads, now does it? Two wrongs do not make a right, a philosophical statement and logical truth that seems beyond your ken.

When did I say it excused anyone? I merely pointed out that your religion produces more bastards than atheism.

[Poto]

I bring capitalist clean gym socks, in two sizes, to the bums on the street. Go find a job at McDonalds on the late shift.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So, it's my own fault if I'm barefooted?

[Robert_S]

redunderthebed, this is a reminder to play nice and refrain from personal attacks like the one int this post:

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 3#p1025173

[Seth]

You love money more than life itself, so don't play the put up or shut game.

Prove it. Put up or shut up, liar.

Face it, Seeth, you sold your soul long ago. You live in a Hell of your own making, gilded but still a prison.

Got a copy of a receipt proving that assertion, liar?

And you're the one with the Two Wrongs stupidity, pointing to non-religious people when the vast majority of dickheads were religious.

That hardly excuses the non-religious dickheads, now does it? Two wrongs do not make a right, a philosophical statement and logical truth that seems beyond your ken.

When did I say it excused anyone? I merely pointed out that your religion produces more bastards than atheism.

Strange logic there because I'm a non-theistic Tolerist™ and I don't have any kids, so again, where's your evidence, liar? Put up or shut up.

[Seth]

I bring capitalist clean gym socks, in two sizes, to the bums on the street. Go find a job at McDonalds on the late shift.

Or move to Alabama and pick tomatoes.

[sandinista]

Actually, it is. Also, Che was a murderous thug and got what he deserved far too late to save the hundreds of people he PERSONALLY murdered.

So...I suppose you must think that US or Canadian, or British soldiers have personally murdered hundreds 'cough cough hack hack' thousands of people and deserve to be executed.

Che marched Cuban citizens he considered to be "counterrevolutionaries" out the back door and shot them in the head, personally, and had them buried in shallow graves. You're trying on the "Two Wrongs Make a Right" fallacy here. Doesn't matter what anyone else did, Che viciously murdered Cuban civilians merely because they didn't want to live under Communism, and for no other reason.

Nice evasion. You never answered the question. "Doesn't matter what anyone else did"

You're engaging in classic Marxist historical revisionism. Deny, deny, deny, then mumble, obfuscate, pettifog and lie through your teeth. But we know the truth. So do most people.

Deny the BS coming out your arse...far from revisionism. Simply put, you're full of shit, you know it and so do most people.

[Seth]

Actually, it is. Also, Che was a murderous thug and got what he deserved far too late to save the hundreds of people he PERSONALLY murdered.

So...I suppose you must think that US or Canadian, or British soldiers have personally murdered hundreds 'cough cough hack hack' thousands of people and deserve to be executed.

Che marched Cuban citizens he considered to be "counterrevolutionaries" out the back door and shot them in the head, personally, and had them buried in shallow graves. You're trying on the "Two Wrongs Make a Right" fallacy here. Doesn't matter what anyone else did, Che viciously murdered Cuban civilians merely because they didn't want to live under Communism, and for no other reason.

Nice evasion. You never answered the question. "Doesn't matter what anyone else did"

I answered the question. You posed a "have you stopped beating your wife" two-wrongs-make-a-right fallacy masquerading as a question in a lame attempt to deflect the debate away from the fact that Marxists and Communists are evil, murderous thugs who have killed a hundred million people in this century, and that includes Che. I chose not to be derailed. You didn't like that. Well, sucks to be you I guess.

You're engaging in classic Marxist historical revisionism. Deny, deny, deny, then mumble, obfuscate, pettifog and lie through your teeth. But we know the truth. So do most people.

Deny the BS coming out your arse...far from revisionism. Simply put, you're full of shit, you know it and so do most people.

Lame Alinsky Big Lie attempt. Now, how many innocent people did Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Che (and you can throw in Castro too) actually murder, according to you? Talk about your consistently evaded questions...

Let me guess: "Zero" is the answer you prefer because you think that all those counterrevolutionaries were guilty of capital crimes against the state and therefore deserved to be killed, sometimes quickly a la Che and Pol Pot, with a bullet in the head, and sometimes slowly, a la Stalin and Mao, by starvation and being worked to death.

Fuck you. You lie and most people know it.

[maiforpeace]

I wonder how long Seth can go, he's like an Energizer bunny!

*Scampers off to find him a chew toy*

Occupy Strike Descends Into Chaos

[Seth]

I wonder how long Seth can go, he's like an Energizer bunny!

On the subject of how utterly evil Communism and Socialism are? Months...no, years. Just ask the folks at RatSkep. They finally got so frustrated at my debunking of communism and socialism that they were forced to violate their own FUA and ethical principles to ban me because I annoyed the socialists so badly and the Mods got sick and tired of having to listen to them whine and bitch about me through the back-channel.

Pussies.

[Seth]

I wonder how long Seth can go, he's like an Energizer bunny!

*Scampers off to find him a chew toy*

Occupy Strike Descends Into Chaos

The events in Oakland are right out of the Communist Manifest and the Marxist revolutionary dialectic. Entirely predictable. In fact, Glenn Beck predicted this more than three years ago.