maiforpeace wrote:You're kidding, Seth, Youtube videos? I smell people like James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles behind those.
So what? The videos speak for themselves. They didn't force the ACORN workers or the PP workers to incriminate themselves and give advice on how to defraud the government and violate the law. O'Keefe and Giles have done this country a great service by exposing rampant corruption and illegal activities in liberal organizations that are defrauding the taxpayers.
Given how many enemies Planned Parenthood has, you can't provide one instance of actual criminal wrongdoing that has been prosecuted?
It's very difficult to prosecute PP for criminal acts when the criminal acts are carefully concealed by PP and the victim both. The whole point of the undercover videos is to rip the cloak away from the organization and reveal its corruption. PP consistently throws any employee who is exposed expounding PP true positions under the bus, claiming that it was the employee who was at fault, and it takes great care NOT to leave documentary evidence of it's criminal acts by, as can be seen in the videos, telling underage girls who have been raped by adults not to tell PP the age of the sex partner precisely so that they can have plausible deniability. Young girls seeking an abortion don't want to risk not getting the abortion, and they do as they are told, but the evidence is clear that in numerous cases PP knows full well that the child is having sex with an adult, but fails to report it. Eventually PP will get prosecuted, just as the abortion doctor Dr. Kermit Gosnell of Philadelphia, who is accused of killing babies after delivery, and four of his clinic workers, have been arrested. Such things take time, but the PP criminality is beginning to unravel thanks to the undercover videos.
And while it is not illegal to advise pimps how to get abortions and medical services for their underage imported sex slaves, an ethical organization would immediately report the instance to the police and would cooperate fully with the police in investigating the individuals involved in order to track them down and put them out of business. There is NO evidence that PP has ever reported such instances to the police or cooperated with the police in freeing young sex slaves from their bondage. It may be presumed, however, that PP has done the opposite, and has facilitated child sex slavery by providing services to pimps and underage prostitutes without making the required police reports and without taking any action to free the children from their plight.
Certainly that deserves to be known by the public, so that the public can decide if federal funds should continue to flow to the organization, and whether or not the public should continue to support such corruption and greed.
As a teenager, I first went to Planned Parenthood to get birth control. Then later on when that birth control failed, I received an abortion from them. (or, as you might put it Seth, became a bady killer)
Did you know that one of the reasons your birth control might have failed is that PP might be deliberately dispensing specific brands of contraceptives that are more likely to fail than other, better brands? There are allegations that the organization deliberately dispenses oral birth control pills that must be taken exactly on schedule, and that have a significantly higher failure rate if they are not taken at the same time each day and that PP knows this and dispenses these specific drugs rather than more "forgiving" brands to young women who are unlikely to be rigorous about taking their pills correctly? This would comport with PP's "give them an abortion no matter what" business plan, because they don't make as much money distributing contraceptives as they do providing abortions.
Without the help of Planned Parenthood, I can't imagine what my life would have been like if I had been forced to keep that child.
You would have been a mother, like billions of women before you. In all likelihood you would have found that being a mother is a mixture of reward and sacrifice, but in the end, if you settle to the task and just do it, is, in the end, more reward than sacrifice. This seems to be the majority experience, as demonstrated by the continued existence of the human race.
Planned Parenthood gave me my life back, and added to the quality of it immeasurably. They get a nice donation from me every year.
Not all of us are built to care for, or pay for the care of six brats (ugh, what a nightmare!), much less one of them.
How sad that you feel this way about children. Interestingly, I used to feel much the same way, back when I was young and stupid. I thought kids were a nuisance and could see no point in anyone having one, and that abortion on demand was a great idea.
Then I grew up and became an adult, dispelled my gross ignorance, suppressed my atavistic selfishness and took the time to actually discover the great joy of children. There is nothing quite as rewarding as watching a toddler, beginning at about 18 months, truly begin to learn and explore and speak.
The joy of being around them is inexpressible to someone who is as selfish and self-centered as one who kills their own child out of a misguided and atavistic sense of bloated self-worth and narrow-minded greed and selfishness rather than buck up and accept personal responsibility for her actions. Personally, I use great care in controlling where my semen is deposited so that I can live an ethical and moral life and do not have to bear the moral burden of creating a new life that can be snuffed out without my participation or permission. I expect and demand no less from women. Hedonistic pleasure is not a moral justification for careless sexual behavior that leads to the killing of a child out of convenience and selfish personal pleasure. Sex should never be undertaken without due regard for the risks and potential consequences, and a willingness on both parties part to accept and live with those consequences rather than killing a resulting child, should one's contraceptive precautions fail. Abortion should never be a last resort for failed contraception, it should ONLY be permitted if the woman has been raped, or if the child is FATALLY deformed. Otherwise, women and men both should act like rational human beings and accept the consequences of their actions and get on with being good parents. You play, you pay, and you don't get do-overs. If you don't want to chance being a parent, then don't have sex. It's just that simple.
It is probably better that deranged and delusional people who use abortion as birth control aren't allowed to have kids, it's true, because they turn out to be horrible parents who abuse their children and do things like leave a two year old and an 8 month old alone in a bathtub, where the two-year-old accidentally turns on the hot water, gets out of the tub and leaves the 8 month old to die of scalding and drowning while "mom" steps out to buy some cigarettes and beer.
Yes, preventing such narcissistic morons from having children from having children is a good idea, and I'd happily fund a No Parenthood clinic where such women, and men, would receive mandatory sterilization. But it would be best if it were done before they needed an abortion. Since that's not possible, the alternative I think is to REQUIRE PP to sterilize any woman who has an abortion, since clearly that woman has decided that her happiness and convenience is more important than another living human being, and thus should not be allowed to ever have children.
Requiring Planned Parenthood to change its name to No Parenthood would at least be truth in advertising.
That work for you?
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