The Coronavirus Thread

[laklak]

It's the fucking Crumpocalypse. He told us it was coming, but we didn't listen.

[rainbow]

Tell us your theory about how the dark skinned people are unable to control their urges, and breed too much.

Well, the Mozambican girls at the Happy Valley Casino down in Ezulweni could get a bit frisky, for the right price. Not that I know anything about it, of course, being a happily married man, but you hear things.

I have some fond memories of that area, but haven't been back in 30 years. Maybe will visit again when things open up one day.

[NineBerry]

The Swedes let older people die without a need in order to protect their hospital system from overload. Article from June.

When 81-year-old Jan Andersson fell ill with Covid-19 at a nursing home in the Swedish town of Märsta, a doctor consulted by phone ordered palliative care, including morphine, instead of trying to help him fend off the infection.

Mr. Andersson’s son, Thomas Andersson, says he was told his father was too frail for other treatment. The younger man disagreed and, after arguing with the physician, summoned journalists and insisted his father be given lifesaving care. Mr. Andersson has since recovered.

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“Many people have died unnecessarily,” said Yngve Gustafson, a geriatric-medicine specialist, adding that doctors were too quick to put patients on palliative care.

Dr. Gustafson said that, in response to requests from relatives of older people with Covid-19, he looked into more than 200 cases in which people were denied care. He said he believed many would have survived and lived years longer had they been provided basic care.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronaviru ... 1592479430

[Brian Peacock]

[Brian Peacock]

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Netherlands:



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By these numbers that's an average of just under 25% excess deaths. Not insignificant, but lower than the UK by quite a bit.

But as this is faerie data it could be a lot higher. Nobody knows, and nobody can ever know anything about anything.

[rainbow]

But as this is faerie data it could be a lot higher. Nobody knows, and nobody can ever know anything about anything.

It doesn't take into account gas gangrene caused by excessive clog wearing, or people hit by the blades of windmills, or cheese allergy.

[Scot Dutchy]

But as this is faerie data it could be a lot higher. Nobody knows, and nobody can ever know anything abount anything.

It doesn't take into account gas gangrene caused by excessive clog wearing, or people hit by the blades of windmills, or cheese allergy.

A childish mind is a joy for ever. You do love your fake news.

[Brian Peacock]

Eurostat is fake news now? I guess the NL's GDP, employment rate, population, and bacon export figures are all made up too!

[Scot Dutchy]

Well why not? Who is holy around here?

[JimC]

The virus has some nasty effects on the heart, and those with pre-existing heart issues are more at risk:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020 ... t/12795726

[Scot Dutchy]

The tories cant help themselves:

The government's secretive Covid contracts are heaping misery on Britain

Bypassing the NHS and handing crucial services to corporate executives has led to the catastrophic failure of test and trace

If you are not incandescent with rage, you haven’t grasped the scale of what has been done to us. The new surge in the coronavirus, and the restrictions and local lockdowns it has triggered, are caused in large part by the catastrophic failure of the test-and-trace system. Its £12bn budget has been blown, as those in charge of it have failed to drive the infection rate below the critical threshold.

Their failure was baked in, caused by the government’s ideological commitment to the private sector. This commitment had three impacts: money that could have saved lives has been diverted into corporate profits; inexperienced consultants and executives have been appointed over the heads of qualified public servants; instead of responsive local systems, the government has created a centralised monster.

This centralisation is perhaps the hardest aspect to understand. All experience here and abroad shows that local test and trace works better. While, according to the latest government figures, the centralised system currently reaches just 62.6% of contacts, local authorities are reaching 97%. This is despite the fact that they have been denied access to government data, and were given just £300m, in contrast with the £12bn for national test and trace. Centralisation may be a catastrophe, but it does enable huge contracts for multinational corporations.

The Conservative mantra, repeated for 40 years like a stuck record, is that the public sector is wasteful and inefficient while the private sector is lean and competitive. Yet the waste and inefficiency caused by privatising essential public health functions is off the scale. This isn’t like rail or water privatisation, where failure has caused dysfunction within a single public service. This is about the escalating collapse of national life.

The government’s irrational obsession with the private sector is symbolised by its appointment of Dido Harding to run NHS test and trace. She worked at McKinsey, Tesco and Sainsbury’s, and as chief executive of TalkTalk. After a disastrous hack of the TalkTalk database, exposing both the details of 4 million customers and Harding’s ignorance of the technology, she acquired the moniker Dido, queen of carnage, a nice pun on Christopher Marlowe’s play. In 2014 David Cameron, an old friend, made her a baroness; she sits in the House of Lords as a Conservative peer.

[rainbow]

Eurostat is fake news now? I guess the NL's GDP, employment rate, population, and bacon export figures are all made up too!

Rejecting any figures as fake news is the sort of argument Trump supporters do.
Dumb bunch of fecking idiots

[pErvinalia]

It's amazing how much Trump-like Scot is. I wonder if he has enough self awareness to realise it..

[Scot Dutchy]

Eurostat is fake news now? I guess the NL's GDP, employment rate, population, and bacon export figures are all made up too!

Rejecting any figures as fake news is the sort of argument Trump supporters do.
Dumb bunch of fecking idiots

You would know?

[rainbow]

Eurostat is fake news now? I guess the NL's GDP, employment rate, population, and bacon export figures are all made up too!

Rejecting any figures as fake news is the sort of argument Trump supporters do.
Dumb bunch of fecking idiots

You would know?

Yes the really stupid idiots who don't follow the rules on social distancing, and keep the Corona spreading. TWM