US Philadelphia Student Carrying Legal Firearm Shoots It Out

[Coito ergo sum]

Well...now you're taking all the fun out of it....

[MrJonno]

Half your women under 30 wake up drunk every Sunday morning in the gutter

Completely inaccurate most of them do make it back to somewhere with a roof, they fall over at least 3 times a week not just Sunday and whats this shit about only half.

But more importantly how is this a bad thing?, better than lets have the men take women on an expensive restuaurant without a guarantee of shag, thats fraud in my books!.

Sorry this just sounds like jealousy of a decent public transport system allowing women to become completely wasted and give geeks like me at least a chance to occassionaly have sex

[Coito ergo sum]

Half your women under 30 wake up drunk every Sunday morning in the gutter

But more importantly how is this a bad thing?

Sorry this just sounds like jealousy of a decent public transport system allowing women to become completely wasted and give geeks like me at least a chance to occassionaly have sex

Again with the "we're better than you" bullshit from a fucking Brit.

Look - your country is the size of fucking a small US State. We have excellent public transport systems in the US -- prime examples are New York City and Chicago. There is plenty of public transport to get all over most major cities. We don't have subway systems in every town, though, for obvious reasons.

And, if you like banging fat chicks, you should be able to accomplish that feat without the need of alcohol...

[MrJonno]

And, if you like banging fat chicks, you should be able to accomplish that feat without the need of alcohol..

Even they expect a few beers!

[klr]

People! People! Enough of this petty bickering I say, You must unite against your common enemy.






The French

[MrJonno]

The French think they are better than everyone else while we British just are

[mistermack]

Jonesville ? Bit worse than a few drunken women ?

[klr]

"Drink the wine, they're coming!"
- from one old enough to remember the film made shortly after

[Gallstones]

Jonesville ? Bit worse than a few drunken women ?

Dammit mistermack, you know how to put a punch behind your posts.

Emotive manipulation is kind of in poor form don't you think?

[Seth]

Nobody gets into their car to commit a massacre, at a school or university say, with the intention of running dozens of people over.

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-10-10/ ... bus-driver

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10837287

Anecdotes. Well done,old chap.

Factual news stories are not anecdotes. You claimed nobody gets into a car to commit a massacre, and I've just shown that they do. Nobody will think less of you if you go ahead and admit that you're wrong and I'm right and that makes me fantastic.

I've never questioned your fantasticalness but a handful of car-related anecdotes do not really refute my point.

Sure it does, because you don't have a point, you have a fallacious opinion based in gross ignorance, hoplophobia, and an irrational fear of your fellow man. People in cars are far, far more dangerous to you than I, or any other law-abiding gun-carrying citizen, and that's just a fact.

[Robert_S]

'Twas a Chevy Van what my neighbor used to kill his roomy a few weeks back.

[amok]

It's very odd and unpleasant (for me) to read the insults from both sides of this debate.

It really does require a massive leap of logic, in my opinion, to believe that Americans who carry guns are either psychotic or paranoid. It doesn't take into account at all the social/historical factors that make it acceptable, normal (or even desirable), depending on where one lives in the country. I also have been educated about (legal) gun ownership/use in the U.S., in that I now know that it's not quite the gun-happy free-for-all that it's sometimes portrayed. Depending on the state, there does seem to be quite a bit of gun ownership legislation.

However, it also takes a big leap to get to the belief that the unarmed, either in America or in other countries, are fearful so-called sheeple.

A few people have suggested we're walking targets. I don't believe that. I honestly have very, very little to fear in the way of being victimized, and that's how I live my life. And, yes, I know, there's always the off chance, but I long ago decided that other than using basic common sense and knowing a few basic self-defence tactics, it's not good (just for me, personally, because I know my own mind and abilities), to embrace the "possible victim" mentality. It just wouldn't work, for me.

And to be fair, I believe part of that involves my overall world view and personal attitude, which means I will walk where I want, when I want, and let the chips fall where they may. Maybe that attitude actually inhibits those who would victimize someone else, but I don't think there's anyway of knowing that. As an aside, I recently had a very amusing argument with someone about how tall I am - I'm average height (five-foot-four) for a woman my age (I'll be 54 in a couple of months, and I say my age because I know average height is going up with later generations), and this person was INSISTING I was taller. I think it's because I "stand" straight and tall. I also take long, purposeful strides, in general, because that's my nature.

Anyway... so, while I can appreciate that legal gun-owners in America can be both capable and responsible, and certainly aren't de facto nuts, it doesn't mean that people in other countries who opt for stricter gun-control laws are blind slaves to some kind of master class. We democratically elect, year after year and decade after decade, the people who enact the type of gun-control laws we like.

Finally, even if I was somehow magically dropped into a dangerous city in America (or elsewhere, where I would be allowed to carry a handgun for self-defence), I still wouldn't. I'd rely on other methods. And it's not because I'm afraid of guns. It's because I know myself. Half the time, I can't even get my cellphone out of my handbag in time to catch the call. If I was relying on a pistol in my purse to save myself, I'd also have to rely on an attacker patiently waiting while I got it out.

[Gallstones]

Guns do have a unique utility.

[amok]

Guns do have a unique utility.

Pardon?

[Gallstones]

Guns do have a unique utility.

Pardon?

They are designed to perform a select function.