The suzerain Trump

[Animavore]

Republicans trying to make peaceful protests illegal.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19/rep ... l-protest/

[mistermack]

Republicans trying to make peaceful protests illegal.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19/rep ... l-protest/

Good idea.

You can protest all you want, out in the sticks, without causing disruption to others. But they don't want that.
They want to block off streets, and march through areas that people are using for their daily business. Well, fuck em. If they want to fuck other people up, they should pay the price.

[Animavore]

Republicans trying to make peaceful protests illegal.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19/rep ... l-protest/

Good idea.

You can protest all you want, out in the sticks, without causing disruption to others. But they don't want that.
They want to block off streets, and march through areas that people are using for their daily business. Well, fuck em. If they want to fuck other people up, they should pay the price.

That's not how protesting and civil disobedience work. If you want the governments to listen to you need to disrupt business.

It's Orwellian of governments to make protesting illegal. It also means governments are using their power to be personal police for corporate interests against the people.

[JimC]

Republicans trying to make peaceful protests illegal.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19/rep ... l-protest/

Good idea.

You can protest all you want, out in the sticks, without causing disruption to others. But they don't want that.
They want to block off streets, and march through areas that people are using for their daily business. Well, fuck em. If they want to fuck other people up, they should pay the price.

That's not how protesting and civil disobedience work. If you want the governments to listen to you need to disrupt business.

It's Orwellian of governments to make protesting illegal. It also means governments are using their power to be personal police for corporate interests against the people.

There has usually been a series of compromises negotiated between protestors and authorities before major peaceful protest marches in the past. In most cases, authorities are usually prepared to allow a certain amount of disruption, with whole streets being used by large numbers of protestors, as long as it is agreed on earlier. Not to allow this would be both authoritarian and absurd.

The extreme ends of the spectrum are firstly when authorities forbid any protests, and beat up those who try, and conversely the violent anarchy of the various anti-globalisation protests of recent years (which have not achieved a damn thing, other than make sure that particular group of protestors and their cause are detested by the majority of the population)

[Animavore]

Anyone wonder why Kanye West wasn't invited to the inauguration of Satan?

http://www.vox.com/culture/2017/1/19/14 ... om-barrack

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah, his hands are too big.

[pErvinalia]

What he should have done was forego the pop-and-circumstance. He should have said we have a lot of work to do. I'm going to authorize a short, simple ceremony where I take the oath of office. He should go to the Capitol building and be introduced to the House of Representatives and the Senate in a brief, subdued formal introduction. He should then move to an appropriate site for the swearing in, and take the oath of office. He should then go right to the west wing, sit down and get to work.

I am not a fan of this celebrity song-and-dance, formal celebration ball. It's gaudy and wasteful.

And that's exactly why Trump wouldn't forgo it.

[Brian Peacock]

They're very proud that they've come in 20% under budget though.

[Tero]

Trump rallies are history, nobody cares anymore:

When Senator Barack Obama celebrated in the same place, the day before his inauguration, it was estimated that about 400,000 people were in attendance. Tonight MSNBC is estimating that the most unpopular and (un)democratically elected Trump has about 10,000 people.

[Animavore]

Painful read about the inauguration welcome concert. Sad.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... aster.html

Glad I didn't have to sit through it.

[Tyrannical]

Regardless of what you think of the writing, the Daily Mail will have the best and most pictures / videos of all the fun Friday will bring

Pepper spray already
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... on-DC.html

[mistermack]

The concert sounds almost as embarrassing as Obama's pathetic claim of "Yes we did".

Except that concerts don't matter.

[Forty Two]

What he should have done was forego the pop-and-circumstance. He should have said we have a lot of work to do. I'm going to authorize a short, simple ceremony where I take the oath of office. He should go to the Capitol building and be introduced to the House of Representatives and the Senate in a brief, subdued formal introduction. He should then move to an appropriate site for the swearing in, and take the oath of office. He should then go right to the west wing, sit down and get to work.

I am not a fan of this celebrity song-and-dance, formal celebration ball. It's gaudy and wasteful.

And that's exactly why Trump wouldn't forgo it.

Yes, perhaps so.

I thought about it, and I think that probably he was confronted with the inertia of Washington on this, where certain events had become "expected."

I think it would have sent a tremendously important message if he simply appeared, gave a speech, was formally sworn in, etc., and then was shown heading into the White House to get down to business.

He shouldn't play a round of golf as President, and he should forgo vacations for the first four years. This business of hundreds of rounds of golf and Hawaii trips that cost $10 million is excessive and wasteful and he should send a message that it has to stop. Camp David is plenty. He can head up there to relax.

[Forty Two]

Trump rallies are history, nobody cares anymore:

When Senator Barack Obama celebrated in the same place, the day before his inauguration, it was estimated that about 400,000 people were in attendance. Tonight MSNBC is estimating that the most unpopular and (un)democratically elected Trump has about 10,000 people.

If you go by CNN and MSNBC, Barack Obama had 1.8 million at his first inauguration. Bush had about 400,000, and Clinton previously had about 250,000, and back in Ronald Reagan's day, he only had 140,000 -- one of biggest landslide victories in American history, only 140,000 attended.

I think the biggest factors for Obama was (a) Washington DC is a highly highly "Democrat leaning" area, and (b) Obama's election was rather unusual, being the first black President. I don't think people general travel from around the country for a typical election.

I wonder what the cause is for the increase from the 70s and 80s, when 10s of thousands to, say 140,000, attendees came to the inauguration, and then why it jumped first to 250,000 for Clinton, and then to 300,000-400,000 for W Bush, and then to 1.8 million and 1 million for Obama? I get the Obama bump, but why the bump up for Bush in 2001 and 2005?

Interesting.

[pErvinalia]

Any chance he might get shot at the inauguration?