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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun May 17, 2020 9:06 pm

Cunt wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 5:01 pm
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OK then. Obamagate = leaking a name.
Your understanding of it is shockingly bad.
Going by your posts, it appears to be equivalent to yours.

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Post by Cunt » Sun May 17, 2020 10:21 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:06 pm
Cunt wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 5:01 pm
L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:14 pm
OK then. Obamagate = leaking a name.
Your understanding of it is shockingly bad.
Going by your posts, it appears to be equivalent to yours.
I'm enjoying watching it all unfold, to be honest. I think Clapper gets fucked...maybe Corney, probably Clinton, certainly Strokz...

The media and Democrats teamed up to smear Trump and support their preferred party. It isn't even that outrageous a claim, except to sensitive Democrat fans and Trump-haters.
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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by Joe » Sun May 17, 2020 10:26 pm

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What are your sources? Have you tried the most trusted name in news? The lawmakers critical of the actions? Some cunt on a forum who doesn't use his right name?
Yep, that last one is totally untrustworthy. :hehe:
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Post by Hermit » Mon May 18, 2020 3:34 am

Shannon Bream: "What do you make of this new—release of all of these transcripts, the notes we found the week before, texts, all kinds of things that now are raising a lot of questions for people about the Flynn prosecution AND the Russia investigation?"

Brad Moss: "Yeah, I’m sitting here trying to figure out what exactly constitutional deprivation was there? What is the crime that people think, you know, Barack Obama and Joe Biden are going to be prosecuted under? To be clear—and this is using the words of President Trump and his lawyers for the last three years—any sitting president can get any classified information they want. According to Donald Trump, they can launch any investigation they want. They can tell the FBI to pursue only particular individuals. This is not me saying it. This is what Donald Trump’s been saying for three years.

This was their argument during the Mueller probe. This was their argument during the impeachment investigation. That the president has this kind of authority. So what did we find out? That Barack Obama was aware about intelligence intercepts on the Russian ambassador when he was talking with General Flynn? That there had just been an attack on our election a couple months earlier? We were still dealing with the fallout of Russian election interference in 2016. There was a concern about a counterintelligence prom with Michael Flynn, and they had a discussion.

I’m shocked. I can’t believe they had that conversation. What is the crime?"

Shannon Bream: "Well, uh, we'll have to leave it there"

Marvellous exit without explaining what the crime is.
Speaker 10: (52:36)
Mr. President in one of your Mother’s Day tweets, you appear to accuse President Obama of the “biggest political crime in American history by far,” those were your words. What crime exactly are you accusing President Obama of committing? And do you believe the Justice Department should prosecute him?

Donald Trump: (52:52)
Obamagate, it’s been going on for a long time. It’s been going on from before I even got elected and it’s a disgrace that it happened. And if you look at what’s gone on, and if you look at now all of this information that’s being released. And from what I understand, that’s only the beginning. Some terrible things happened and it should never be allowed to happen in our country again. And you’ll be seeing what’s going on over the coming weeks. And I wish you’d write honestly about it, but unfortunately you choose not to do so. Yeah, John, please.

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What is the crime exactly that you’re accusing…?

Donald Trump: (53:24)
You know what the crime is, the crime is very obvious to everybody. All you have to do is read the newspapers except yours. John, please.

Another marvellous exit without explaining what the crime is.
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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by JimC » Mon May 18, 2020 4:00 am

The crime is being intelligent, urbane, well-liked and good looking.

Something I am also guilty of, obviously... :tea:
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Post by Joe » Mon May 18, 2020 4:01 am

At this point, Trump and his sycophants are blowing smoke and looking for a fire.

I'm sure they'll make up find something any day now.
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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by Cunt » Mon May 18, 2020 6:16 am

Joe wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:01 am
At this point, Trump and his sycophants are blowing smoke and looking for a fire.

I'm sure they'll make up find something any day now.
I bet you guys don't notice how much this shows you don't know the other side.

If you had listened to a source not hostile to this, you might be able to describe what Trump failed to. I haven't listened in a few days, but probably Shapiro, Tim Pool, Dan Bongino or such could walk you through it.
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Post by rainbow » Mon May 18, 2020 7:42 am

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I bet you guys don't notice how much this shows you don't know the other side.
Yes. There is truth and logic on one side, and Blustering Bullshit on the other.

I really battle with the Trumpeteer Trashtalk side.

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Post by Tero » Mon May 18, 2020 8:28 am

From Twitter: The crime was that Obama was using presidential powers while black.
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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by Joe » Mon May 18, 2020 2:22 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 6:16 am
Joe wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:01 am
At this point, Trump and his sycophants are blowing smoke and looking for a fire.

I'm sure they'll make up find something any day now.
I bet you guys don't notice how much this shows you don't know the other side.

If you had listened to a source not hostile to this, you might be able to describe what Trump failed to. I haven't listened in a few days, but probably Shapiro, Tim Pool, Dan Bongino or such could walk you through it.
I notice how hard you're trying to change the subject from the fact you can't explain what Trump failed to. Sounds like it's bullshit.

But don't worry Cunt. Stephen Miller is in the basement of the White House torturing the rats. Sooner or later one will squeal and you'll get your talking points. BTW, he noticed the old pommel horse down there, but oddly didn't know the story behind it. They just don't teach these kids history any more. :{D

In the meantime, the total US deaths from COVID-19 just topped 91,000. I expect a lot more changing the subject. :coffee:
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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by Cunt » Mon May 18, 2020 3:34 pm

Joe wrote:
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I notice how hard you're trying to change the subject from the fact you can't explain what Trump failed to. Sounds like it's bullshit.
Using a shitty (Steele) dossien to start an investigation they knew was crap, and part of that was unmasking Flynn.

Biden was one of the unmaskers.

Someone leaked that info to the 'news' agencies.

The investigation interfered with the duly elected president and his duties. (i.e. - he couldn't fire some folks until the Mueller 'investigation' clearly yielded nothing)

But just because I don't have a deep understanding of it, doesn't make you any smarter. It just makes you look less informed.

Not so much about what is true, as that should come out in the investigation, but you don't even know what is being honestly claimed by the other side, and use their poorest spokesperson, in his rantiest rant, to 'prove' how smart you are.

Why not check what Shapiro has to say? Is it because he has clear and tight arguments, which you couldn't refute?

It probably IS easier to deal with some cunt on a forum who doesn't know all the details.

Do you think obamagate is a conspiracy theory?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon May 18, 2020 3:38 pm


Cunt wrote:...

Why not check what Shapiro has to say? Is it because he has clear and tight arguments, which you couldn't refute?

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If you tell me what those irrefutable arguments are I'll give it a go.
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Re: Spygate is unravelling

Post by Joe » Mon May 18, 2020 5:47 pm

Cunt wrote:
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I notice how hard you're trying to change the subject from the fact you can't explain what Trump failed to. Sounds like it's bullshit.
Using a shitty (Steele) dossien to start an investigation they knew was crap, and part of that was unmasking Flynn.

Biden was one of the unmaskers.

Someone leaked that info to the 'news' agencies.

The investigation interfered with the duly elected president and his duties. (i.e. - he couldn't fire some folks until the Mueller 'investigation' clearly yielded nothing)

But just because I don't have a deep understanding of it, doesn't make you any smarter. It just makes you look less informed.

Not so much about what is true, as that should come out in the investigation, but you don't even know what is being honestly claimed by the other side, and use their poorest spokesperson, in his rantiest rant, to 'prove' how smart you are.

Why not check what Shapiro has to say? Is it because he has clear and tight arguments, which you couldn't refute?

It probably IS easier to deal with some cunt on a forum who doesn't know all the details.

Do you think obamagate is a conspiracy theory?
Still trying to change the subject I see. You were asked a couple of reasonable questions:
1. What exactly is the crime (the actual charge)?
2. What the evidence that proves the crime?
And you can't answer them.

As for the rest of your whining, you're the Cunt who started this thread so quit your bitching. If you didn't want to be called on your BS, you shouldn't have posted it.

So if you think this Shapiro guy has the answers, why didn't you provide a link? :bored:
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Post by Cunt » Mon May 18, 2020 6:03 pm

Joe wrote:
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1. What exactly is the crime (the actual charge)?
2. What the evidence that proves the crime?
And you can't answer them.
Fair enough. I expect the formal charges will be made at the right time. I explained what I thought was done wrong, but you want to insist I can't define it, so...something something.

As for the rest of your whining, you're the Cunt who started this thread so quit your bitching. If you didn't want to be called on your BS, you shouldn't have posted it.
Do you think it is a conpsiracy theory?

Why so intent on attacking MY understanding (or lack of it)? Is the sketchy attack on the sitting president of no interest to you?
So if you think this Shapiro guy has the answers, why didn't you provide a link? :bored:
He has links all over. You can find him on youtube, or you can find others (Bongino?) who have a different view than the standard media/democratic party view.

But insist I should feed it to you in small, mild-tasting spoonfuls. It makes perfect sense.
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