The Curious Case of the Fall in Crime.
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Re: The Curious Case of the Fall in Crime.
Fuck off, you bunch of crypto-communists! The fall in crime is solely due to an increase in guns. And the only place where crime rates have fallen, is the US. Everywhere else losers like you are held over the barrel by machine-gun toting tax officials and subject to increasing crime rates because, you see, in order for governments to look acceptable for perpetrating their thefts, they have to also allow other criminals to do such things as raping your daughters while holding you at gun point, and they can only do that because you fuckwits are too pissweak to form militias that will stop them. You lose.
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Re: The Curious Case of the Fall in Crime.
Warren, you fail to reference your graph for Germany and you seem to misunderstand it completely. "hospital orders" is not equal to "people in mental hospitals", as most people stay there for a relatively short period. According to WHO Germany had about 89 beds per 100 000 population for mental care in 2011. That's less than a tenth of what you claim. The same number for the USA was 34. [http://www.who.int/mental_health/eviden ... index.html]
And I don't agree with it being better to throw mentally ill people in prisons than giving them treatment. With proper treatment many can return to normal society, whereas almost nobody gets better in prison.
And I don't agree with it being better to throw mentally ill people in prisons than giving them treatment. With proper treatment many can return to normal society, whereas almost nobody gets better in prison.
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What will happen when google glasses become all pervasive.Seth wrote:The pervasiveness of affordable video cameras has a lot to do with the apprehension rate.
Such technology will also include the technology to determine which google glass devices were in the vicinity of an event at a given time, and so if a crime happens, the first thing that law enforcement will do is grab the videos from all area google glasses and other such devices. The only way to be off camera is to be alone and without google glasses, and if law enforcement pinpoints you in an area where a crime was committed and you were the only one there...well, res ipsa loquitur....
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...if you have nothing to hide, why do you complain?Collector1337 wrote:If crime is on such a fucking decline, then what the fuck do we need a police state and all this fucking authoritarian bullshit for then?
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People get freaked out by gun enthusiasts around here. Even the ones that haven't gone nuts....Tero wrote:Because people get freaked out by foreign terrorists. Gun enthusiasts going nuts is just everyday news.
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It's because we've entered the Age of Aquarius and the Indigo children are sending out calming psychic waves.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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laklak wrote:It's because we've entered the Age of Aquarius and the Indigo children are sending out calming psychic waves.
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Name even just ONE "gun enthusiast" who went "nuts."Tero wrote:Because people get freaked out by foreign terrorists. Gun enthusiasts going nuts is just everyday news.
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Seriously? If I have nothing to hide then why complain?Coito ergo sum wrote:...if you have nothing to hide, why do you complain?Collector1337 wrote:If crime is on such a fucking decline, then what the fuck do we need a police state and all this fucking authoritarian bullshit for then?
I hope you're kidding with that kindergarten logic.
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Whoa whoa whoa boy! Of course I was kidding. LOL.Collector1337 wrote:Seriously? If I have nothing to hide then why complain?Coito ergo sum wrote:...if you have nothing to hide, why do you complain?Collector1337 wrote:If crime is on such a fucking decline, then what the fuck do we need a police state and all this fucking authoritarian bullshit for then?
I hope you're kidding with that kindergarten logic.
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Collector1337 wrote:Name even just ONE "gun enthusiast" who went "nuts."Tero wrote:Because people get freaked out by foreign terrorists. Gun enthusiasts going nuts is just everyday news.

What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Maybe not so much an enthusiast as an .... aficionado?
Or, should we say "gun fancier?" Like, the crazy person just got done reading "gun fancy" magazine, lol.


Or, should we say "gun fancier?" Like, the crazy person just got done reading "gun fancy" magazine, lol.


Re: The Curious Case of the Fall in Crime.
I'll be happy when the Supreme Court rules (finally) that video and audio recording of public servants (police in particular) in the performance of their official duties is a right of the public and that such public employees have NO reasonable expectation of privacy in their public and official acts and duties.Coito ergo sum wrote:What will happen when google glasses become all pervasive.Seth wrote:The pervasiveness of affordable video cameras has a lot to do with the apprehension rate.
Such technology will also include the technology to determine which google glass devices were in the vicinity of an event at a given time, and so if a crime happens, the first thing that law enforcement will do is grab the videos from all area google glasses and other such devices. The only way to be off camera is to be alone and without google glasses, and if law enforcement pinpoints you in an area where a crime was committed and you were the only one there...well, res ipsa loquitur....
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There's a link right underneath the graph. Feel free to read it and revise your post accordingly.MiM wrote:Warren, you fail to reference your graph for Germany
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More and more lower courts have made that ruling. For some reason, the governments involved are not appealing to the Supreme Court - perhaps because they know they'll lose.Seth wrote:I'll be happy when the Supreme Court rules (finally) that video and audio recording of public servants (police in particular) in the performance of their official duties is a right of the public and that such public employees have NO reasonable expectation of privacy in their public and official acts and duties.Coito ergo sum wrote:What will happen when google glasses become all pervasive.Seth wrote:The pervasiveness of affordable video cameras has a lot to do with the apprehension rate.
Such technology will also include the technology to determine which google glass devices were in the vicinity of an event at a given time, and so if a crime happens, the first thing that law enforcement will do is grab the videos from all area google glasses and other such devices. The only way to be off camera is to be alone and without google glasses, and if law enforcement pinpoints you in an area where a crime was committed and you were the only one there...well, res ipsa loquitur....
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