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Post by Santa_Claus » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:07 pm

mistermack wrote:I would place the bullet in George Ws head. But I would direct it there via his asshole.
And please please can I have another for his daddy? Just for bringing him into the world.

Having said that, I'm still against guns, and would prefer to administer some nasty incureable disease.

Would that also be via the asshole?
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:16 pm

Von Sternberg? Roman Fedorovich aka Ungern Khan?
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Post by Red Celt » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:29 pm

Rum wrote:I don't want to shoot anyone, but I suppose it would be quite good to have taken a pot shot at Hitler in around 1934 or 5.

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Post by Red Celt » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:31 pm

My bullet would probably have been aimed at Saul of Tarsus. Possibly while prone on a grassy knoll on the road to Damascus.

Imagine Christianity without that cunt-bag. It would be closer to Buddhism.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:40 pm

Rohm might have succeeded Hitler in 1934. Things would have gotten much uglier if that happened, but the collapse would have come soon.
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Post by Don't Panic » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:49 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Rohm might have succeeded Hitler in 1934. Things would have gotten much uglier if that happened, but the collapse would have come soon.
Hitler set the soviets back by 20 million citizens, maybe 8-9 million of those were soldiers?
What would they have done to Western Europe without Germany to force them into a conflict before they were ready?
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Post by macdoc » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:14 pm

Arminius prior to Teutoberg Forest battle.

No Hitler
No Christian empire....

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What If?: The World's Foremost Military Historians Imagine What Might Have Been (Putnam, 1999).

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Post by mistermack » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:28 pm

Santa_Claus wrote:
mistermack wrote:I would place the bullet in George Ws head. But I would direct it there via his asshole.
And please please can I have another for his daddy? Just for bringing him into the world.

Having said that, I'm still against guns, and would prefer to administer some nasty incureable disease.

Would that also be via the asshole?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:54 pm

Don't Panic wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Rohm might have succeeded Hitler in 1934. Things would have gotten much uglier if that happened, but the collapse would have come soon.
Hitler set the soviets back by 20 million citizens, maybe 8-9 million of those were soldiers?
What would they have done to Western Europe without Germany to force them into a conflict before they were ready?
Wrong tack. I think Rohm would not haben been able to keep the reigns of power. The Nazi government would have collapsed sooner. No guesses as to what would take its place.
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Post by Don't Panic » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:38 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Rohm might have succeeded Hitler in 1934. Things would have gotten much uglier if that happened, but the collapse would have come soon.
Hitler set the soviets back by 20 million citizens, maybe 8-9 million of those were soldiers?
What would they have done to Western Europe without Germany to force them into a conflict before they were ready?
Wrong tack. I think Rohm would not haben been able to keep the reigns of power. The Nazi government would have collapsed sooner. No guesses as to what would take its place.
I wasn't questioning that, merely the effects on the rest of Europe. Barbarossa may have saved Western Europe from communism, and it delayed the German takeover by 50-60 years.
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:11 pm

Don't Panic wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Don't Panic wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Rohm might have succeeded Hitler in 1934. Things would have gotten much uglier if that happened, but the collapse would have come soon.
Hitler set the soviets back by 20 million citizens, maybe 8-9 million of those were soldiers?
What would they have done to Western Europe without Germany to force them into a conflict before they were ready?
Wrong tack. I think Rohm would not haben been able to keep the reigns of power. The Nazi government would have collapsed sooner. No guesses as to what would take its place.
I wasn't questioning that, merely the effects on the rest of Europe. Barbarossa may have saved Western Europe from communism, and it delayed the German takeover by 50-60 years.
I'm not sure about that. If Germany became a real democracy she could have mended the rift with Poland and bolstered Czechoslovakia. The united Europe would have been a tough nut to crack for Stalin's depleted military.
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Post by Don't Panic » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:48 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Don't Panic wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Don't Panic wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Rohm might have succeeded Hitler in 1934. Things would have gotten much uglier if that happened, but the collapse would have come soon.
Hitler set the soviets back by 20 million citizens, maybe 8-9 million of those were soldiers?
What would they have done to Western Europe without Germany to force them into a conflict before they were ready?
Wrong tack. I think Rohm would not haben been able to keep the reigns of power. The Nazi government would have collapsed sooner. No guesses as to what would take its place.
I wasn't questioning that, merely the effects on the rest of Europe. Barbarossa may have saved Western Europe from communism, and it delayed the German takeover by 50-60 years.
I'm not sure about that. If Germany became a real democracy she could have mended the rift with Poland and bolstered Czechoslovakia. The united Europe would have been a tough nut to crack for Stalin's depleted military.
Would Poland really have entertained an approach from Germany in the 30's?
And if Germany hadn't gone down the route it did, wouldn't it still have been tied into the reparations from Versailles? Can't do much bolstering if you're giving all your money to the French.
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Don't Panic wrote:Would Poland really have entertained an approach from Germany in the 30's?
Faced with a Soviet Union that wanted to swallow Poland and a Germany who wanted to make nice, what would the politicians do?
And if Germany hadn't gone down the route it did, wouldn't it still have been tied into the reparations from Versailles? Can't do much bolstering if you're giving all your money to the French.
When were the reparations renounced again?
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Don't Panic wrote:Would Poland really have entertained an approach from Germany in the 30's?
Faced with a Soviet Union that wanted to swallow Poland and a Germany who wanted to make nice, what would the politicians do?
And if Germany hadn't gone down the route it did, wouldn't it still have been tied into the reparations from Versailles? Can't do much bolstering if you're giving all your money to the French.
When were the reparations renounced again?
Germany stopped paying them in 1932 when the Nazis took power.
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Don't Panic wrote:
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Don't Panic wrote:Would Poland really have entertained an approach from Germany in the 30's?
Faced with a Soviet Union that wanted to swallow Poland and a Germany who wanted to make nice, what would the politicians do?
And if Germany hadn't gone down the route it did, wouldn't it still have been tied into the reparations from Versailles? Can't do much bolstering if you're giving all your money to the French.
When were the reparations renounced again?
Germany stopped paying them in 1932 when the Nazis took power.
Hitler came to power in January 1933, just a few weeks before FDR was sworn in the first time.

And as for the reparations, if Hitler gets shot in 1934 or 35 are they a factor in anything?
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