Witch Burnings in Africa

[Seth]

Go fuck yourself. It's not my job to dispel your ignorance or your bigotry, it's my job to show you up for what you are, which I've done. If you "missed the part" that's merely an admission of your own willful ignorance or mental incapacity or both, and I don't give a fuck whether you ever learn the truth because I prefer to point out how ignorant you actually are, as a public service to the world.

Angry man is angry. You should have a nice cuppa, Seth. Chill a little.

So, you can dish it out but you can't take it eh? How's it feel to be on the shit end of the stick? I'm quite enjoying myself. I love the opportunity to point out what whiny bitches Atheists can be and how unreasoning and hateful they almost always are. It's about time someone revealed their feet of clay and dragged them down off their intellectual high horses.

By the way, I consider your reference to my "mental incapacity" to be a personal attack. I have reported this thread. I will stay out of the staff discussion on it - it wouldn't be fair to do otherwise.

Are you admitting that you have a mental incapacity? Could be your willful ignorance though. But the evident fact that you appear not to understand metaphor or parable and how Jesus used both in his teachings indicates something significant about your reasoning ability. And you said you "missed the part" which could have many causes, including willful ignorance or mental incapacity...like the incapacity to feel compassion or respect for billions of people who have never done you any harm at all.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I am not going to go anywhere near your last response, Seth. It is empty, windy bluster as ever.

Have a nice day.

[Seth]

which is why I'm not an Atheist even though I don't believe in God.

And for his next trick, Seth will attempt not to be male while possessing a penis!

You might want to make note of the capital "A" in "Atheist," which denotes ignorant religious Atheist bigots who happens to have formed a religious beliefs around the notion that anyone who believes in God must be viciously attacked for no particularly rational reason but merely because the religious Atheist zealot finds atavistic satisfaction in declaring that believing in God is heresy and that apostate theists must be maligned and attacked for having the temerity to stand in opposition to the Atheist religious dogma.

Such Atheists are every bit as bad, and in many cases worse than any other sort of deranged religious zealot who has come up with some evil to perpetrate against their enemies, including branding babies and burning people.

Atheists are disgusting sub-human cretins who couldn't reason their way out of a wet Kleenex if their lives depended on it. They are ignorant, prejudiced, bigoted, arrogant, stupid, hateful scum who are a danger to civilized society.

It's no wonder that Atheists are marginalized, maligned and dismissed by society. They are simply unworthy of respect or regard, much less being given seats of power. And they have only themselves to blame because they engage in the sort of hateful rhetoric always seen here regarding Christians.

A false dichotomy based on your own invented definition. Unlike theists, I insist on no special privilege warranting a capitalisation of a particular adjective that describes me. I am no more Atheist than I am Male, Bearded or Seated.

But you get one just the same. "Insisting on special privilege" has nothing whatever to do with it. You're an Atheist if you act like a religious zealot while using atheism as an excuse to attack others. If the shoe fits, I'm going to throw it at you and you can wear it, whether you like it or not. You don't get to determine what labels I apply to atheistically religious zealots, I get to do as I please and lay my labels as I see fit. You just get to issue weak and childish denials. But I know the truth about you, from your own words and actions.

It's perfectly clear that you do not simply have "no belief in god." Based on your posts here it's clear that you have an entire religious belief built around viciously attacking theism and people of faith without any rational justification that's every bit as dogmatic as any cargo-cult savage's belief in the C-47 as God.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

which is why I'm not an Atheist even though I don't believe in God.

And for his next trick, Seth will attempt not to be male while possessing a penis!

You might want to make note of the capital "A" in "Atheist," which denotes ignorant religious Atheist bigots who happens to have formed a religious beliefs around the notion that anyone who believes in God must be viciously attacked for no particularly rational reason but merely because the religious Atheist zealot finds atavistic satisfaction in declaring that believing in God is heresy and that apostate theists must be maligned and attacked for having the temerity to stand in opposition to the Atheist religious dogma.

Such Atheists are every bit as bad, and in many cases worse than any other sort of deranged religious zealot who has come up with some evil to perpetrate against their enemies, including branding babies and burning people.

Atheists are disgusting sub-human cretins who couldn't reason their way out of a wet Kleenex if their lives depended on it. They are ignorant, prejudiced, bigoted, arrogant, stupid, hateful scum who are a danger to civilized society.

It's no wonder that Atheists are marginalized, maligned and dismissed by society. They are simply unworthy of respect or regard, much less being given seats of power. And they have only themselves to blame because they engage in the sort of hateful rhetoric always seen here regarding Christians.

A false dichotomy based on your own invented definition. Unlike theists, I insist on no special privilege warranting a capitalisation of a particular adjective that describes me. I am no more Atheist than I am Male, Bearded or Seated.

But you get one just the same. "Insisting on special privilege" has nothing whatever to do with it. You're an Atheist if you act like a religious zealot while using atheism as an excuse to attack others. If the shoe fits, I'm going to throw it at you and you can wear it, whether you like it or not. You don't get to determine what labels I apply to atheistically religious zealots, I get to do as I please and lay my labels as I see fit. You just get to issue weak and childish denials. But I know the truth about you, from your own words and actions.

It's perfectly clear that you do not simply have "no belief in god." Based on your posts here it's clear that you have an entire religious belief built around viciously attacking theism and people of faith without any rational justification that's every bit as dogmatic as any cargo-cult savage's belief in the C-47 as God.

Kindly list the words and actions that elevate me to such a lofty status? I had no idea that i had achieved CAPITALISATION!

I feel... GLORIOUS!!11



Nah... it's just more hyperbolic bullshit.

[Seth]

I am not going to go anywhere near your last response, Seth. It is empty, windy bluster as ever.

Have a nice day.

Like I said, you can dish it out, but you can't take it. You can't defend your malicious lies about Christians so you're pulling the classic Atheist last-resort tactic: "Run away! Run away!" That sort of behavior is typical of pussies and wimps, and every Atheist I've ever met is both a pussy and a wimp. They like to spout insults from the safety of their mommy's basement, but if they ever had to say it to someone's face, they'd piss their pants at the prospect of getting thrashed and would run away instead.

Cowardly pussies.

So, how does it feel to be maligned and insulted unjustly? Does it make you angry? Do you feel unjustly put upon and unfairly characterized as something not worthy of being shat upon?

You might want to remember that feeling next time you lump billions of good people in with a few deranged savages as a part of your religious practices.

[Robert_S]

What about capital "A" Atheists who go to conventions and local meetups primarily for the noble purpose meeting members of the preferred gender(s) and asking them up to their rooms for coffee.

What if they have great respect for many religious people, but consider their belief system horribly flawed. You think you can authoritatively call anyone who might consider themselves an Atheist a bigot?

[Ronja]

You're an Atheist if you act like a religious zealot while using atheism as an excuse to attack others. ... I know the truth about you, from your own words and actions.

...Based on your posts here it's clear that you have an entire religious belief built around viciously attacking theism and people of faith without any rational justification that's every bit as dogmatic as any cargo-cult savage's belief in the C-47 as God.

Claims like this could maybe be interesting, if they were accompanied with evidence. In this case links to XC's posts in, say, 3-6 different threads and posted over a period of some months at least, to show a trend.


Use the Search, Seth.

Because if you don't link to anything substantial, which would justify your claims regarding XC's posting behavior - though not the rudeness IMO - we are back at: "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." *






* quoting Christopher Hitchens, because he expressed this principle so well

[Thinking Aloud]

People being burned to death in Africa is bad, but not as bad as calling the people who are doing it "Christians" even though they themselves claim to be ("New Testament Assembly, Church of God Mission, Mount Zion Gospel, Glory of God, Brotherhood of the Cross, Redeemed, Apostalistic"). If they claim to be Christians, then they're Christians, just like the 10,000 other splinter groups claiming the same thing and taking their own interpretations of whichever bits of the Bible suit their own needs. And it leads, at its extremes, to justification for the horrors in the OP, but hey, let's have an argument about over what is a "true christian" instead.

Three pages of argument over semantics once again, and hardly a word on the OP. Pedantic Troll succeeds again.

[Eddie]

I recon if you really want to exterminate witches, fire is a good way, we've had some positive results in Europe and North America which are now witch free...
Gospel of the FSM clearly states that science is weak and the only thing scientist can do when these foul creatures attack is throw calculators at them. Witches eat calculators.

True or untrue Christians, followers or just fans, they are finding justification for their actions in the Bible, so who are we to judge if they are doing God's will. Perhaps they are.

[Pappa]

Seth, this post: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 5#p1093479 is a personal attack on another member. Given that you have been suspended for 24 hours for a previous personal attack on 9th January, you will be suspended for 48 hours. Please refrain from personal attacks in the future.

[Tyrannical]

It's the same old same old in Africa except it was vastly more common a hundred years ago or so.

He is the medicine-man or fetich-doctor, and is consulted in cases of sickness and witchcraft. To the cunning of this priest may easily be traced that superstition which I have described as prevalent in Equatorial Africa, that no one dies a natural death. If any one dies in spite of the medicines of the priest, he preserves his reputation by declaring that the patient has been bewitched, and obtains more money by discovering the sorcerer.

Readers Savage Africa, page 288

[Svartalf]

If that verse about burning witches was supposed to be ignored, then the missionaries should have explained that to the inhabitants of Africa all those decades ago when they decided to take the gospel to them.

There's no verse where it says witches should be burned. Burning heretics is (which is what witches were regarded as at the time, witchcraft being treated as a mark of keeping the old religions) is a late Roman invention.

[Svartalf]

personal attack erased.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If that verse about burning witches was supposed to be ignored, then the missionaries should have explained that to the inhabitants of Africa all those decades ago when they decided to take the gospel to them.

Not my job. Go ask a voodoo priest.

[Drewish]

Seth,

I get that you think that this isn't real Christianity. It can be shown that people who are Christian pastors are encouraging the witch hunts and selling exorcism services to those who can afford it. It's clear that you feel that this is scam artists and barbarism done in the name of Christianity, but that this does not mean that it is an accurate portrayal of Christianity.

As a former Christian, one of the things that struck me was the lack of any real way to determine when something was real Christianity and when it was merely people acting unjustly in its name. It always seemed to come down to one's own personal judgment. Many Christians would call this "your own personal relationship with Christ" and some such things. Others refer to a specific church organization or the Bible as handing down revealed absolute truth.

I guess I'm wondering from where you draw the distinction of what is and is not Christianity? Without knowing that, I don't think it would be possible for me to have a real discussion with you about religion and faith. Of course, perhaps you don't want to have a real discussion about religion and faith, and just became angered that the religion you self identify with is being blamed for these horrific events and that's it. If that's the case, then feel free to ignore this post.