Christopher Jarvis gets 12 months for child porn.

[Bella Fortuna]

For one glorious moment my heart soared like an eagle...but alas.....

I know how you feel.

[Feck]

For one glorious moment my heart soared like an eagle...but alas.....

I know how you feel.

At first I was like then I was like

[cowiz]

If I was a pedo I'd go get a job with the catlick church, spot my opportunities and have my evil way. I assume this Jarvis twat was targeting a job where he would have access to this kind of stuff, and boy what a cover story!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If I was a pedo I'd go get a job with the catlick church, spot my opportunities and have my evil way. I assume this Jarvis twat was targeting a job where he would have access to this kind of stuff, and boy what a cover story!

Depends if he was satisfied with his fantasies or decided to live them out, I think. Either way, he's just part of the bigger problem.

[cowiz]

If I was a pedo I'd go get a job with the catlick church, spot my opportunities and have my evil way. I assume this Jarvis twat was targeting a job where he would have access to this kind of stuff, and boy what a cover story!

Depends if he was satisfied with his fantasies or decided to live them out, I think. Either way, he's just part of the bigger problem.

Totally!

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

I wish Tony Belch were here to read this thread.

[Bella Fortuna]

I wish Tony Belch were here to read this thread.

No connection whatsoever, but...

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[Seth]

If I was a pedo I'd go get a job with the catlick church, spot my opportunities and have my evil way. I assume this Jarvis twat was targeting a job where he would have access to this kind of stuff, and boy what a cover story!

As it happens, you've just identified exactly why pedophiles got into the church in the first place. A combination of liberalization from Vatican II, poor management and screening policies in the 60s, and cover-ups by a very small number of Bishops.

Any organization where there are children involved is a target for a closet pedophile, from the Boy Scouts to the public schools.

Kinda hard to screen out applicants who have no criminal background history of child sexual abuse who are smart enough to limit their activities to viewing of kiddie porn, which is widely available to literally anyone with a computer.

There weren't any allegations that he abused any children himself, are there?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

For fuck's sake, don't you have the least grip on reality?

[JimC]

I'm with Ani and CES. The Church picked a (very) bad apple here, someone who likely knew how to cover their tracks and how to come across as "normal".

I agree in this case, which is not to downplay the very significant influence that pedophiles within the church have exerted in the past in looking after their own...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I'm with Ani and CES. The Church picked a (very) bad apple here, someone who likely knew how to cover their tracks and how to come across as "normal".

I agree in this case, which is not to downplay the very significant influence that pedophiles within the church have exerted in the past in looking after their own...

And nobody wants to tell me why they believe this?

[JimC]

Mainly that it would be not in the self-interest of any pedophile members of the hierarchy; too many chances of it coming back to bite them on the bum...

If they had a chance to influence the selection process (which is by no means certain anyway), they would be better off nudging towards the selection of an incompetent, or conversely employing some cunning, and simply getting some intelligence on where his investigations where heading, so they could cover their tracks...

We will probably never know; a conspiracy of within-church pedophiles to appoint a fellow pedophile to an investigative role is not impossible, I just don't think it's likely...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Mainly that it would be not in the self-interest of any pedophile members of the hierarchy; too many chances of it coming back to bite them on the bum...

If they had a chance to influence the selection process (which is by no means certain anyway), they would be better off nudging towards the selection of an incompetent, or conversely employing some cunning, and simply getting some intelligence on where his investigations where heading, so they could cover their tracks...

We will probably never know; a conspiracy of within-church pedophiles to appoint a fellow pedophile to an investigative role is not impossible, I just don't think it's likely...

Given that they work with pedophiles all the time, having one to investigate them would be ideal. He wouldn't look too hard. I think they hired him as a show and he screwed the pooch. I don't think there is a way in hell the Church can solve its own problems, and this case points that out nicely.

[Ronja]

If I was a pedo I'd go get a job with the catlick church, spot my opportunities and have my evil way. I assume this Jarvis twat was targeting a job where he would have access to this kind of stuff, and boy what a cover story!

As it happens, you've just identified exactly why pedophiles got into the church in the first place. A combination of liberalization from Vatican II, poor management and screening policies in the 60s, and cover-ups by a very small number of Bishops.

Any organization where there are children involved is a target for a closet pedophile, from the Boy Scouts to the public schools.

Kinda hard to screen out applicants who have no criminal background history of child sexual abuse who are smart enough to limit their activities to viewing of kiddie porn, which is widely available to literally anyone with a computer.

There weren't any allegations that he abused any children himself, are there?

FFS, you really don't research anything before you post?

Child sexual abuse and pederasty on boys especially has been a repeatedly reported/discussed problem in the church for the last thousand years at least!
http://www.springerlink.com/content/pv666385476j9037/
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 4v06n02_04
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm? ... _id=755032

And as to why it is entirely logical that such abuses would have found a home already in the early catholic church is explained with painful clarity in this book: Perversion of power: sexual abuse in the Catholic Church, by Mary Gail Frawley-O'Dea. The important parts for understanding the historical perspective of suffering as a religious ideal are freely available on Google Books http://www.google.fi/books?id=UpmMPng7j ... &q&f=false

I dare you to speak of these things without reading the above.

[Coito ergo sum]

I'm with Ani and CES. The Church picked a (very) bad apple here, someone who likely knew how to cover their tracks and how to come across as "normal".

I agree in this case, which is not to downplay the very significant influence that pedophiles within the church have exerted in the past in looking after their own...

And nobody wants to tell me why they believe this?

Because, I find it hard to believe that the appointment of a known pedophile to such a post would be covered up by the non-pedophiles in the bunch. Generally, non-pedophiles would either report the situation to the authorities and/or resign. It would seem to me that not only would there have to be nothing but pedophiles at the management ranks of the Catholic Church, but among those pedophiles there would have to be nobody who was even trying to control his behavior -- there couldn't be one that knew his impulses had to be restrained. From what I understand, some folks join the Catholic Church thinking that the discipline and religion and worship can help them stop sinning - whether it be sex addicts, homosexuals, pedophiles, etc. Is the group so rife with evil bastards that nobody would blow the whistle? I think the claim that such was the case needs some serious evidence, and nobody seems to want to present that.