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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by leo-rcc » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:56 pm

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Why? You'd find yourself equally as annoyed...guess the hippie wouldn't throw you in prison for growing a plant though.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:59 pm

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Tigger wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:"If you don't like the pigs, next time you're trouble, yell for a hippie."
Why? You'd find yourself equally as annoyed...guess the hippie wouldn't throw you in prison for growing a plant though.
Don't grow the plant; don't go to prison.
You're kidding right?
Until it's legal, it's illegal. Clever system.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by drl2 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:02 pm

I've worked with a number of current and ex-cops, including a stint at a police station, and my sister is married to a former state trooper. the opinion I've developed in the process goes something like this: the decent-person-to-asshat ratio is about the same as among every other group of people I've worked with, and politics in police organizations, like everywhere else, tend to favor those least qualified to be running things. Add to that the stress of having a job where a good day means you haven't been shot at...
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Tigger » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:04 pm

Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:"If you don't like the pigs, next time you're trouble, yell for a hippie."
Why? You'd find yourself equally as annoyed...guess the hippie wouldn't throw you in prison for growing a plant though.
Don't grow the plant; don't go to prison.
You're kidding right?
Why would I be kidding? It's not compulsory to grow cannabis.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Meekychuppet » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:05 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:"If you don't like the pigs, next time you're trouble, yell for a hippie."
Why? You'd find yourself equally as annoyed...guess the hippie wouldn't throw you in prison for growing a plant though.
Don't grow the plant; don't go to prison.
You're kidding right?
Until it's legal, it's illegal. Clever system.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by floppit » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:15 pm

When I was a kid Police were more feared than any gang. My Mum would give them a free breakfast whenever they came in, not through choice. She (Mum) once called the police when an elderly drunk smashed the huge glass front to the caf. My bedroom was upstairs facing out onto the street, I saw them show up in a big black van from out of which they piled - all on to one very drunk, very old man, I was about 8, watching the stretched clean jackets while they rained punches and kicks on their target. That was the first and last time my mother called the police - to her credit. I was scared to death of the police.

As an adult apart from speeding and failing to wear a seat belt I've had little to do with them. When we had some local break ins they were excellent, came round to see every neighbour, made sure we all had the local station number and the name of who was taking the lead. It seemed so 'civil', polite, even caring.

I think possibly like most things if you're a person who can get on with folk less trouble is attracted, if something makes a person stick out they probably do cop ('scuse pun) for more hassle. As the police are a group I should also think that group dickbrainitis also frequently applies. But, all that said, we live in a different media age and ID numbers or no time won't roll backwards, these days if a group of coppers are kicking ten bales of shite out an old man for not respecting their authorityyyy the brat at the window would have her phone on record!

I think things get better, too slowly and often for the wrong reasons but better.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Tigger » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:16 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:"If you don't like the pigs, next time you're trouble, yell for a hippie."
Why? You'd find yourself equally as annoyed...guess the hippie wouldn't throw you in prison for growing a plant though.
Don't grow the plant; don't go to prison.
You're kidding right?
Until it's legal, it's illegal. Clever system.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:17 pm

Meekychuppet wrote:Have I awoken in a parallel universe?
Okay, sloppy of me. "If it's illegal, it's illegal until it's legal." Better?

Debate on whether or not something SHOULD be illegal will have to proceed without me.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Tigger » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:17 pm

floppit wrote:When I was a kid Police were more feared than any gang. My Mum would give them a free breakfast whenever they came in, not through choice. She (Mum) once called the police when an elderly drunk smashed the huge glass front to the caf. My bedroom was upstairs facing out onto the street, I saw them show up in a big black van from out of which they piled - all on to one very drunk, very old man, I was about 8, watching the stretched clean jackets while they rained punches and kicks on their target. That was the first and last time my mother called the police - to her credit. I was scared to death of the police.

As an adult apart from speeding and failing to wear a seat belt I've had little to do with them. When we had some local break ins they were excellent, came round to see every neighbour, made sure we all had the local station number and the name of who was taking the lead. It seemed so 'civil', polite, even caring.

I think possibly like most things if you're a person who can get on with folk less trouble is attracted, if something makes a person stick out they probably do cop ('scuse pun) for more hassle. As the police are a group I should also think that group dickbrainitis also frequently applies. But, all that said, we live in a different media age and ID numbers or no time won't roll backwards, these days if a group of coppers are kicking ten bales of shite out an old man for not respecting their authorityyyy the brat at the window would have her phone on record!

I think things get better, too slowly and often for the wrong reasons but better.
Bearing in mind that all that childhood stuff was pre P.A.C.E. It made a difference.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Twoflower » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:18 pm

Almost all the police are corrupt where I live. We have scandals involving them almost once a month. However the one time I was pulled over the cop was very nice and kind, I have never had any problems with the police myself and really feel very meh about them.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Meekychuppet » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:19 pm

I think the blind acceptance of any law is an extraordinarily dangerous thing.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:20 pm

Meekychuppet wrote:I think the blind acceptance of any law is an extraordinarily dangerous thing.
And who said "blind"?
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Tigger » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:25 pm

Meekychuppet wrote:I think the blind acceptance of any law is an extraordinarily dangerous thing.
Who said "any"? ;)
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by mistermack » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:29 pm

Meekychuppet wrote:I resent the UK police because they are fucking useless. One statistic I was shocked to learn was that there have been 1000 recorded deaths in police custody in the UK. Number of prosecutions? Zero.

The police are as corrupt as it gets.
I'm absolutely with you there. The police in my town killed a petty drug dealer by neglect. He bled to death in his cell, even though the doctor sent him to hosptal twice. They then managed to get two men who he had been injured by while assaulting, convicted of murder, and they did ten years in goal. Everone knew it was corrupt at the time, but they still got their way. All to divert the blame from their own negligence.
I'm afraid the problems the police experience are all down to their own corruption.
You don't have to look far. Look at that guy who died after being pushed to the floor by a policeman in London recently. The DPP took ages to "assess" the case, then said no case could be brought because too much time had passed!!

The DPP should NEVER be trusted to investigate or prosecute the police or the govornment. It should be done by a body independent of police and govornment.

The police whinge and whine about all the regulations and paperwork, but if they had always been honest and truthful, none of it would be needed.
Corrupt police are a tiny minority, it's the fact that they are always protected by the system and their collegues that is the problem.
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Re: Attitudes towards the police

Post by Meekychuppet » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:30 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:I think the blind acceptance of any law is an extraordinarily dangerous thing.
And who said "blind"?
All you have posted is acceptance of the law. Your posts have been no more complex than that. If you have more to say but don't say it then it's hardly up to me to read your mind.
Rum wrote:Does it occur to you that you have subscribed to the model of maleness you seem to be pushing in order to justify your innately hostile and aggressive nature? I have noticed it often and even wondered if it might be some sort of personality disorder. You should consider this possibility.

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Things Rum has diagnosed me with to date: "personality disorder", autism, Aspergers.
eRvin wrote:People can see what a fucking freak you are. Have you not noticed all the disparaging comments you get?
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