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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Robert_S » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:28 am

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Coito ergo sum wrote:Bush, of course, was lambasted for "not doing enough" and Obama is roundly given the benefit of the doubt for not being "able" to do anything about it.
I don't think so. The president has been getting lambasted for some time now for appearing disconnected. He should have learned from Bush's mistake with hurricane Katrina.

Although it is rather funny how many of the people who are demanding government assistance for this oil spill were also the same ones who wanted big government out of their lives. These same people were also part of the "drill baby drill" crowd.
I heard someone one the Liberal Islamozionist NPR news bitching because Obama was talking about getting off our dependence on oil. They said he was "politicizing" it. I almost punched him through the radio.

edit: the person was one of those "lets ask the next random dipshit we run into on the street" types, not a regular contributor.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:53 pm

A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed Barack Obama knew of Blagojevich's plot to win himself a presidential Cabinet post in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate.

John Harris, Blagojevich's former chief of staff, testified Wednesday in the former governor's corruption trial that three days after the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election, the ex-governor told Harris he felt confident Obama knew he wanted to swap perks.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blag ... 24.article

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:58 pm

Americans are more pessimistic about the state of the country and less confident in President Barack Obama's leadership than at any point since Mr. Obama entered the White House, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.


The survey also shows grave and growing concerns about the Gulf oil spill, with overwhelming majorities of adults favoring stronger regulation of the oil industry and believing that the spill will affect the nation's economy and environment.

Sixty-two percent of adults in the survey feel the country is on the wrong track, the highest level since before the 2008 election. Just one-third think the economy will get better over the next year, a 7-point drop from a month ago and the low point of Mr. Obama's tenure.


News Hub: The Mood of Americans on Obama
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The polls are showing that the mood of Americans has taken grim turn as the Gulf oil spill diminishes past high hopes. Peter Wallsten of the Wall Street Journal discusses with Kelly Evans and Neal Lipschutz.

Amid anxiety over the nation's course, support for Mr. Obama and other incumbents is eroding. For the first time, more people disapprove of Mr. Obama's job performance than approve. And 57% of voters would prefer to elect a new person to Congress than re-elect their local representatives, the highest share in 18 years.

The results show "a really ugly mood and an unhappy electorate," said Democratic pollster Peter Hart, who conducts the Journal/NBC poll with GOP pollster Bill McInturff. "The voters, I think, are just looking for change, and that means bad news for incumbents and in particular for the Democrats."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... TopStories

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Robert_S » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:42 pm

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A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed Barack Obama knew of Blagojevich's plot to win himself a presidential Cabinet post in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate.

John Harris, Blagojevich's former chief of staff, testified Wednesday in the former governor's corruption trial that three days after the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election, the ex-governor told Harris he felt confident Obama knew he wanted to swap perks.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blag ... 24.article
Shit, everybody knew Blagojevich was up to no good by that time. Like his Republican predecessor, George Ryan, Blago seemed to think we would all just look the other way at such blatant corruption.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:43 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed Barack Obama knew of Blagojevich's plot to win himself a presidential Cabinet post in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate.

John Harris, Blagojevich's former chief of staff, testified Wednesday in the former governor's corruption trial that three days after the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election, the ex-governor told Harris he felt confident Obama knew he wanted to swap perks.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blag ... 24.article
Shit, everybody knew Blagojevich was up to no good by that time.
By what time? The time before anybody knew anything about it outside of those involved? Because that's the time that the witness is testifying about.
Robert_S wrote: Like his Republican predecessor, George Ryan, Blago seemed to think we would all just look the other way at such blatant corruption.
So did Rahm and Barak, apparently.

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

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Robert_S wrote: Shit, everybody knew Blagojevich was up to no good by that time. Like his Republican predecessor, George Ryan, Blago seemed to think we would all just look the other way at such blatant corruption.
I voted for both those guys. :fp:

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Robert_S » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:30 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed Barack Obama knew of Blagojevich's plot to win himself a presidential Cabinet post in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate.

John Harris, Blagojevich's former chief of staff, testified Wednesday in the former governor's corruption trial that three days after the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election, the ex-governor told Harris he felt confident Obama knew he wanted to swap perks.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blag ... 24.article
Shit, everybody knew Blagojevich was up to no good by that time.
By what time? The time before anybody knew anything about it outside of those involved? Because that's the time that the witness is testifying about.
Robert_S wrote: Like his Republican predecessor, George Ryan, Blago seemed to think we would all just look the other way at such blatant corruption.
So did Rahm and Barak, apparently.
I meant in the sense that everyone kinda figured it out. I doubt that Obama's knowledge exceeded common knowledge by very much.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:29 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed Barack Obama knew of Blagojevich's plot to win himself a presidential Cabinet post in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate.

John Harris, Blagojevich's former chief of staff, testified Wednesday in the former governor's corruption trial that three days after the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election, the ex-governor told Harris he felt confident Obama knew he wanted to swap perks.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blag ... 24.article
Shit, everybody knew Blagojevich was up to no good by that time.
By what time? The time before anybody knew anything about it outside of those involved? Because that's the time that the witness is testifying about.
Robert_S wrote: Like his Republican predecessor, George Ryan, Blago seemed to think we would all just look the other way at such blatant corruption.
So did Rahm and Barak, apparently.
I meant in the sense that everyone kinda figured it out. I doubt that Obama's knowledge exceeded common knowledge by very much.
Why would you doubt that, particularly in light of the testimony?

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:20 pm

Europe's disappointment with President Barack Obama's presidency was laid bare Thursday as the EU’s most senior figure called for a dramatic effort to revive transatlantic relations.

The president of the European Commission said the new era at the White House was in danger of becoming a “missed opportunity” for Europe.

José Manuel Barroso said the EU-U.S. relationship was not living up to its potential. The criticism follows a series of fundamental disagreements on how to deal with the economic crisis, climate change and trade reform.

The feelings of a deepening rift are mutual. Senior U.S. figures said Obama could never live up to Europe’s sky-high expectations.

Barroso revealed his frustrations with Washington during a wideranging interview in which he also admitted that the euro had acted like a “sleeping pill,” luring some countries to the edge of economic disaster with an “illusion of prosperity.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07 ... p-working/

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:46 pm

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a top business group, issued a rebuke of Obama's economic agenda, accusing him and his Democrats in Congress of neglecting job creation and hampering growth with burdensome regulatory and tax policies.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100715/ts_ ... economy_10

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Martok » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:21 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a top business group, issued a rebuke of Obama's economic agenda, accusing him and his Democrats in Congress of neglecting job creation and hampering growth with burdensome regulatory and tax policies.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100715/ts_ ... economy_10
The US Chamber Of Commerce doesn't have much credibility:
You have to give business executives credit for their gall. They held a “jobs summit” yesterday demanding that President Obama cut taxes and pare back government regulations. If he does those things, they’ll create more jobs. Led by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, they accuse the Obama administration of creating an anti-business climate that has dampened job creation.What sheer and utter nonsense!
The eight years of George W. Bush gave us a perfect study of the consequences of a government policy that cut taxes and pared back regulations. Bush cut taxes sharply, mostly benefitting the rich. And he put people in charge of government regulations who didn’t believe in government regulations. As a result, we have had mines to collapse; an oil rig to explode, sink and spew oil; toys with lead paint; cribs that kill babies, and on and on.
But what about jobs? Cutting taxes and loosening regulations led to more jobs, right? Absolutely not.

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/201 ... hia_tucker
Many observers think the Chamber, in so zealously opposing so much of the Democrats' agenda, may be its own worst enemy. Peter Darbee, PG&E's CEO, applauds Donohue's effort to rehabilitate the American public's faith in free enterprise in the wake of the past year's troubles." But he added, "I'm struck by the irony that, as we try to restore public trust in business on the one hand, on the other the Chamber's behavior on the climate issue only reinforces stereotypes that erode that very same confidence."


http://www.time.com/time/business/artic ... 79,00.html

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:29 pm

Martok wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a top business group, issued a rebuke of Obama's economic agenda, accusing him and his Democrats in Congress of neglecting job creation and hampering growth with burdensome regulatory and tax policies.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100715/ts_ ... economy_10
The US Chamber Of Commerce doesn't have much credibility:
Why? Because Cynthia Tucker wrote something on a blog? LOL

Obama has lost all credibility on this "jobs creation" nonsense. Show me how they calculate the number of jobs "saved or created." Or...do you just buy their number, which is out of thin air?

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Robert_S » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:53 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Martok wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a top business group, issued a rebuke of Obama's economic agenda, accusing him and his Democrats in Congress of neglecting job creation and hampering growth with burdensome regulatory and tax policies.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100715/ts_ ... economy_10
The US Chamber Of Commerce doesn't have much credibility:
Why? Because Cynthia Tucker wrote something on a blog? LOL

Obama has lost all credibility on this "jobs creation" nonsense. Show me how they calculate the number of jobs "saved or created." Or...do you just buy their number, which is out of thin air?
I must admit being frustrated. If he wanted to create jobs, he could have just given the states some cash and said X% of this has to go into payrolls of jobs paying not more than $Y or less than $Z that did not exist before and if we catch you doing anything dodgy with the money, you'll have to explain to the voters why the federal money is not going to be there next year.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:12 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Martok wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a top business group, issued a rebuke of Obama's economic agenda, accusing him and his Democrats in Congress of neglecting job creation and hampering growth with burdensome regulatory and tax policies.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100715/ts_ ... economy_10
The US Chamber Of Commerce doesn't have much credibility:
Why? Because Cynthia Tucker wrote something on a blog? LOL

Obama has lost all credibility on this "jobs creation" nonsense. Show me how they calculate the number of jobs "saved or created." Or...do you just buy their number, which is out of thin air?
I must admit being frustrated. If he wanted to create jobs, he could have just given the states some cash and said X% of this has to go into payrolls of jobs paying not more than $Y or less than $Z that did not exist before and if we catch you doing anything dodgy with the money, you'll have to explain to the voters why the federal money is not going to be there next year.
It's because it was a scam from top to bottom. Supposedly they were going to have stiff accounting for every dollar. Remember when we were supposed to have a federal website that you could see where all the money went, and it was going to be audited? Yeah, right. LOL.

So, we get billions paid to fake zip codes, billions to wasteful projects, and no accountability. And, the government claims that the money "saved or created" X million jobs when they have ZERO statistical basis for it. None.

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Re: Has Obama totally fucking lost the plot?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:52 pm

Obama’s Popularity in Arab World Now Lower than Bush’s
Alana Goodman
07.13.2011 - 1:29 PM

James Zogby, the anti-Israel pollster who released these findings today, blames the drop in support for Obama in the Arab world on Obama’s failure to put the amount of pressure on Israel the Arab world wanted and expected. But according to the poll, the Arab world doesn’t seem to be happy with any of America’s foreign policy positions. Respondents rated Obama’s policies as the least popular, when compared with other leaders, including Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Killing Osama bin Laden also contributed to the Arab world’s negative views of Obama. In all six countries surveyed – Egypt, Morocco, Lebanon, Jordan, the UAE and Saudi Arabia – the majority of respondents said killing bin Laden made them “less favorable toward the U.S.” Notably, in Egypt, only 2 percent said the al Qaeda leader’s death made them view America more positively.


Most surprisingly, Obama’s approval ratings are even lower than President Bush’s before he left office in 2008. They dropped from 26 percent to 12 percent in Morocco, 9 percent to 5 percent in Egypt, 16 percent to 10 percent in Jordan and 22 percent to 12 percent in the UAE (though they did improve in Saudi Arabia, and tick up slightly in Lebanon).

Obama’s unique background was supposed to make him a prime candidate to improve the relationship between the U.S. and the Arab world. But more than halfway through his first term, not only has there been no progress, it looks like relations are worse than before.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/ ... E2%80%99s/

Thankfully, we have so much more respect in the world than we used to have....

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