Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

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Post by kiki5711 » Tue May 08, 2012 1:22 pm

You have no idea whether she cleans her house. Some wealthy folks do engage in homemaking tasks, and don't leave it all to assistants. Although, having an assistant in the house with five kids, if one has the means, is not a crime.

I don't give a rats ass if she cleans her house or not, and I never said it was a crime to hire help.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue May 08, 2012 2:28 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
You have no idea whether she cleans her house. Some wealthy folks do engage in homemaking tasks, and don't leave it all to assistants. Although, having an assistant in the house with five kids, if one has the means, is not a crime.

I don't give a rats ass if she cleans her house or not, and I never said it was a crime to hire help.
You're the one who said you were wondering about it.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue May 08, 2012 2:30 pm

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Suggesting that domestic help that is illegally in the US are working for "$1 a day" or other substandard wages is just plain false
It is ABSOLUTELY NOT FALSE. There is so much human trafficing going on, and one who got away was interviewed after she started to work for a diplomat, who after found to be abusing her human rights, could not be prosecuted or charged with anything due to his diplomatic immunity.

It DOES happen more often than you know.
Of course it happens, just like there is sex slavery and trafficking in that arena too. However, it isn't the norm. The vast majority of illegal domestic workers are running their own businesses.

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Post by kiki5711 » Tue May 08, 2012 2:33 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
You have no idea whether she cleans her house. Some wealthy folks do engage in homemaking tasks, and don't leave it all to assistants. Although, having an assistant in the house with five kids, if one has the means, is not a crime.

I don't give a rats ass if she cleans her house or not, and I never said it was a crime to hire help.
You're the one who said you were wondering about it.

I also said I don't give a rats ass if she did or not. I really think we have a communication problem.

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Post by kiki5711 » Tue May 08, 2012 2:35 pm

The vast majority of illegal domestic workers are running their own businesses.
non taxable cash. it's business in name only, not on books. I've known quite a few, so I do know something on the subject.

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Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Suggesting that domestic help that is illegally in the US are working for "$1 a day" or other substandard wages is just plain false
It is ABSOLUTELY NOT FALSE. There is so much human trafficing going on, and one who got away was interviewed after she started to work for a diplomat, who after found to be abusing her human rights, could not be prosecuted or charged with anything due to his diplomatic immunity.

It DOES happen more often than you know.
Of course it happens, just like there is sex slavery and trafficking in that arena too. However, it isn't the norm. The vast majority of illegal domestic workers are running their own businesses.

Well, you FIRST said that it's plain false.

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Post by FBM » Tue May 08, 2012 2:42 pm

Well, to be fair, saying one thing one minute and the opposite a short while later can be confusing to the average reader.



























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Post by kiki5711 » Tue May 08, 2012 2:46 pm

:bored: :smug: :shock:

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Post by FBM » Tue May 08, 2012 2:48 pm

OK, bad joke. :pardon:
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Post by Hermit » Tue May 08, 2012 3:02 pm

Gave me a chuckle.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue May 08, 2012 3:18 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Suggesting that domestic help that is illegally in the US are working for "$1 a day" or other substandard wages is just plain false
It is ABSOLUTELY NOT FALSE. There is so much human trafficing going on, and one who got away was interviewed after she started to work for a diplomat, who after found to be abusing her human rights, could not be prosecuted or charged with anything due to his diplomatic immunity.

It DOES happen more often than you know.
Of course it happens, just like there is sex slavery and trafficking in that arena too. However, it isn't the norm. The vast majority of illegal domestic workers are running their own businesses.

Well, you FIRST said that it's plain false.
Well, you were either making a general statement, that cleaning people work for "$1 a day" (whether literally or metaphorically for "abusively shit wages"), or you were accusing the Romneys themselves of specifically exploiting illegal aliens with abusively shit wages. Either way, you don't know what you're talking about, because the vast majority of cleaning people work independently and are hired by the average person who needs a cleaning service, and nobody verifies their citizenship, so they charge the going rate, which isn't cheap. And, you don't have any idea whether the Romneys are employing an illegal alien or underpaying them. It's just more nonsense.

And, you're the one that brought it up, and then said you didn't give a rats ass about it.

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Post by kiki5711 » Tue May 08, 2012 3:40 pm

Either way, you don't know what you're talking about, because the vast majority of cleaning people work independently and are hired by the average person who needs a cleaning service, and nobody verifies their citizenship, so they charge the going rate, which isn't cheap. And, you don't have any idea whether the Romneys are employing an illegal alien or underpaying them. It's just more nonsense
YES I DO know what I'm talking about because I ran a cleaning service when I lived in NY. And, I repeat, it's good, clean non taxable cash. I never said anyone verifies their citizenship. And I never said the Romneys are employing illegal alien or underpaying them, as a fact.

So it's just more of your twisted nonsense.

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Post by Svartalf » Tue May 08, 2012 4:46 pm

FBM wrote:Well, to be fair, saying one thing one minute and the opposite a short while later can be confusing to the average reader.




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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by kiki5711 » Tue May 08, 2012 5:50 pm

Svartalf wrote:
FBM wrote:Well, to be fair, saying one thing one minute and the opposite a short while later can be confusing to the average reader.




No, wait. I take that back. No, it can't. Forget that. ;)
Now you know why it was hard to trust Sharkshyt, or to follow his stance during the campaign.

Sounds like Romney! he has words and a dress code for each state he visits, even practices his accent. he he :smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Ronja » Wed May 09, 2012 9:19 am

Seraph wrote:Gave me a chuckle.
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