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Post by rasetsu » Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:44 pm

Cunt wrote:
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They've got him this time!

Less than 30 seconds in this person has their facts wrong. And it's not subtly wrong, either.

Why do you listen to such morons, much less post them?
Such moron, many wrongfacts!

Of course, you much be SO much smartier! If only you had something to say, it might be convincing. Shame you are hobbled by newspeak rules.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:51 pm

rasetsu wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:44 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:42 pm
rasetsu wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:39 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:31 pm
They've got him this time!

Less than 30 seconds in this person has their facts wrong. And it's not subtly wrong, either.

Why do you listen to such morons, much less post them?
Such moron, many wrongfacts!

Of course, you much be SO much smartier! If only you had something to say, it might be convincing. Shame you are hobbled by newspeak rules.
Did you use lotion?
Is there any single Trump media smear that you DIDN'T fall for?
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https://t.me/real_DonaldJTrump/16266
This grossly incompetent “Judge,” who is overturned on Appeal more than almost any Judge in New York State, is a partisan political hack who totally disregards the Court of Appeals decisions against him, and won’t allow a Jury to get anywhere near my “CASE” (brought by a Failed, Trump Hating, Racist Attorney General named Letitia James, whose entire campaign for office was “I WILL GET TRUMP.” She then used this charade to run for Governor, and lost, BADLY!). The New York State legal system has broken down completely, and everybody who is watching this Witch Hunt so agrees. Hopefully, that will soon change. This CRAZED Judge ruled against me before the Trial even started, and said Mar-a-Lago is worth only $18,000,000. Other properties, likewise. This is a Biden Election Interference Scam! There were No Crimes & No Victims, and there is NO JURY ALLOWED. This Radical Trump Hater Must Be Taken Off This Case!
At least he sounds contrite and repentant.
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Cunt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:31 am
https://t.me/real_DonaldJTrump/16266
This grossly incompetent “Judge,” who is overturned on Appeal more than almost any Judge in New York State, is a partisan political hack who totally disregards the Court of Appeals decisions against him, and won’t allow a Jury to get anywhere near my “CASE” (brought by a Failed, Trump Hating, Racist Attorney General named Letitia James, whose entire campaign for office was “I WILL GET TRUMP.” She then used this charade to run for Governor, and lost, BADLY!). The New York State legal system has broken down completely, and everybody who is watching this Witch Hunt so agrees. Hopefully, that will soon change. This CRAZED Judge ruled against me before the Trial even started, and said Mar-a-Lago is worth only $18,000,000. Other properties, likewise. This is a Biden Election Interference Scam! There were No Crimes & No Victims, and there is NO JURY ALLOWED. This Radical Trump Hater Must Be Taken Off This Case!
At least he sounds contrite and repentant.
That should save him!
It's always smart to attack the judge in a bench trial.

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Post by JimC » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:10 am

He is not doing a normal thing for a defendant, which is lying low and not wanting to annoy a judge. He is positioning himself for his rabid supporters, playing the martyr game...
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:22 am

More significant perhaps is the subtext. That pertains to how he will 'justify' pardoning himself should he be convicted and subsequently elected, which is entirely possible. All cases against him are witch hunts, completely outlandish attempts to thwart the great project of Making America Great Again. The horrible unfairness to which he's being subjected can only be redressed by an executive pardon because the whole system of laws in the US has been weaponized against him by the 'uniparty' aka the Deep State. That system of laws must be inherently corrupt because only a corrupt system would prosecute Trump.

It is nothing less than inexcusable that they have the absolute gall and temerity to apply the law to him. Their corruption forces him to reject the system of laws and any application of the law to him. No possible prosecution of him can be righteous because he embodies righteousness.

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Post by JimC » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:27 am

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Post by Cunt » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:47 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:22 am
More significant perhaps is the subtext. That pertains to how he will 'justify' pardoning himself should he be convicted and subsequently elected, which is entirely possible. All cases against him are witch hunts, completely outlandish attempts to thwart the great project of Making America Great Again. The horrible unfairness to which he's being subjected can only be redressed by an executive pardon because the whole system of laws in the US has been weaponized against him by the 'uniparty' aka the Deep State. That system of laws must be inherently corrupt because only a corrupt system would prosecute Trump.

It is nothing less than inexcusable that they have the absolute gall and temerity to apply the law to him. Their corruption forces him to reject the system of laws and any application of the law to him. No possible prosecution of him can be righteous because he embodies righteousness.
Are there any false smears of him that you DIDN'T fall for?
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Post by Joe » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:02 pm

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:24 pm

Cunt wrote:
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Are there any false smears of him that you DIDN'T fall for?
The issue is the broad headlines version which is often inaccurate as I have repeatedly noted in different contexts. This can be juxtaposed with an informed understanding that recognizes the nuance which is lost in the yelling. We could examine the nuanced version of any given item but I doubt you are interested in that.

Given that I considered Trump a sleazy mountebank long before he began his political career, I admit I tend to think that there is at least an element of validity in most of the accusations against him. Some may be complete fabrications (like the infamous pee tape) and I believe some of the narratives are based on flimsy evidence or outright misinformation.

However the criminal cases he's dealing with now are based on what appears to be sound evidence.
  • He clearly absconded with government documents that he was not entitled to keep and then tried to hide them and obstruct their recovery by the government.
  • He directed Michael Cohen to pay off Stormy Daniels, then conspired to hide the payoff. Cohen already was convicted for the scheme--Trump is named in the Cohen trial as 'Individual 1.'
  • Trump was at the heart of the scheme in Georgia to overturn that state's election results. In the 'perfect phone call' the Georgia official told him more than once that there had been multiple recounts, yet Trump insisted that Georgia 'find' the votes needed for him to claim victory.
  • Finally, he definitely was part of a wide-ranging effort to overturn the national election results and hold power illegitimately.
I'll return your query--
Are there any of the criminal cases against Trump that you think might have a legitimate basis?

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L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:24 pm
Cunt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:47 pm
Are there any false smears of him that you DIDN'T fall for?
The issue is the broad headlines version which is often inaccurate as I have repeatedly noted in different contexts. This can be juxtaposed with an informed understanding that recognizes the nuance which is lost in the yelling. We could examine the nuanced version of any given item but I doubt you are interested in that.

Given that I considered Trump a sleazy mountebank long before he began his political career, I admit I tend to think that there is at least an element of validity in most of the accusations against him. Some may be complete fabrications (like the infamous pee tape) and I believe some of the narratives are based on flimsy evidence or outright misinformation.

However the criminal cases he's dealing with now are based on what appears to be sound evidence.
  • He clearly absconded with government documents that he was not entitled to keep and then tried to hide them and obstruct their recovery by the government.
Does the President have declassification authority? Or do the bureaucrats overrule him on stuff?

[*]He directed Michael Cohen to pay off Stormy Daniels, then conspired to hide the payoff. Cohen already was convicted for the scheme--Trump is named in the Cohen trial as 'Individual 1.'
Why does she keep losing?

Didn't she have to pay Trump?

[*]Trump was at the heart of the scheme in Georgia to overturn that state's election results. In the 'perfect phone call' the Georgia official told him more than once that there had been multiple recounts, yet Trump insisted that Georgia 'find' the votes needed for him to claim victory.
Yes, and we have all heard the phone call.

I've also heard people insist that the 2020 election was above reproach, and the safest most secure election. Even social media companies, those respectable entities, censored any mention of it, proving how fair and safe it was.

I think it's easy to believe the election was fair, when a doddering old fool campaigned from his basement, and got more votes than Obama.

And the Ball article explains some of it. All fair of course, it doesn't matter if the place is a Republic, people will fight to make it a democracy.

[*]Finally, he definitely was part of a wide-ranging effort to overturn the national election results and hold power illegitimately.[/list]

I'll return your query--
Are there any of the criminal cases against Trump that you think might have a legitimate basis?
He didn't try. They claimed it was an insurrection, but the military stayed out of it, and all the 'insurrectors' left their weapons at home.

As to legitimate basis, I'm hoping they'll get him for trying to grab the steering wheel from the back of the beast, but it is so dramatic, they will probably pretend it never happened. It makes Trump look to strong, to think he could reach like that.

Any other criminal cases...no, nothing that looks criminal.

I'm still waiting for the differing values over Mar-A-Lago to be explained. The property owner, and bank lending against it, both agreed to a value. Loan was made, repayed and both parties were satisfied. Now somehow I am to believe that it was worth FAR less, and that a New Yorker was somehow aggrieved on behalf of people in another state.

When the value is clearly wrong, by one of the three parties, should there be consequences? Or only to Trump?
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Post by Woodbutcher » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:43 pm

When Trump was first running for president, I was curious to see how he would act, so I watched him at one of his question and answer appearances. I was surprised to see and hear that he was the same twit as he was on the apprentice. He never answered factually to a question, instead dismissing it with a couple of sarcastic statements. The only time he spoke at length was when he was able to expound on how great he was. I couldn't believe it when he was elected! I thought people were more intelligent than that in The States, but apparently I was wrong.
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Post by Cunt » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:57 am

Woodbutcher wrote:
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Any dissenters will be imprisoned
Didn't the Biden gang just jail a guy for spreading memes? lol

But ya, Trump jailed all his dissenters. I'll look through your list later, but I can't remember any of his dissenters who were jailed yet.

Was the lady who posed with a fake severed Trump head jailed? That surely wouldn't be tolerated, right?
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