Media Bias

[Cunt]

It's safest to go after his character, rather than his stories.

I bet he wears the beanie because he's got male pattern baldness.

Speaking of media bias, why is it phrased that way? We ALL know it is mostly affecting males, that it is a pattern, and it is on the way to baldness. Is that just a way to triple-roast the folks who are afflicted?

With my full head of hair, I don't know. It seems biased against the differently-haired though...

[Joe]

Getting back to the topic of the thread, I came across an interesting study on bias in news coverage from about a year ago. Here's the abstract, but the link will take you to the entire article.

There is no liberal media bias in which news stories political journalists choose to cover

Abstract
Is the media biased against conservatives? Although a dominant majority of journalists identify as liberals/Democrats and many Americans and public officials frequently decry supposedly high and increasing levels of media bias, little compelling evidence exists as to (i) the ideological or partisan leanings of the many journalists who fail to answer surveys and/or identify as independents and (ii) whether journalists’ political leanings bleed into the choice of which stories to cover that Americans ultimately consume. Using a unique combination of a large-scale survey of political journalists, data from journalists’ Twitter networks, election returns, a large-scale correspondence experiment, and a conjoint survey experiment, we show definitively that the media exhibits no bias against conservatives (or liberals for that matter) in what news that they choose to cover. This shows that journalists’ individual ideological leanings have unexpectedly little effect on the vitally important, but, up to this point, unexplored, early stage of political news generation.

While it may be true that ideology doesn't play a significant part in which stories are covered, it may play a larger part in how those stories are covered. I haven't read the paper, so don't know if they address that issue.

Yeah, it limits itself to just decisions of what to cover.

In my experience, purely anecdotal, there seems to be a difference in publications in placement, follow up, and emphasis on certain aspects of stories based on political orientation. That's why this interested me. It contradicted my admittedly unscientific impressions of how bias manifests itself.

I've only skimmed the paper so far, but I want to go back and look more closely at their methodology.

[pErvinalia]

You watched both vids, and still refer to it as 'killing him' without the verdict being in?

Very much horseshit, but very much an approved position.

The Medical Examiner ruled it a homicide.

[Cunt]

Oh? I guess that'll be submitted with all the evidence.

Did you see the video, released later, which showed the fuller context of the arrest?

Why do you think Floyd was having such trouble breathing, and asked to be laid on the ground? It surprises me how many regular media outlets didn't mention that in their coverage.

You don't think they fear a Kafka trap, do you?

[pErvinalia]

The very first media report I heard about it mentioned he was on fentanyl and that it can depress your breathing. Maybe you weren't listening properly. Only listening for what you wanted to hear.

[Hermit]

I know it doesn't matter to you. It's unsurprising that your position agrees with that which would likely be found on 'The View'.

Like the first video doesn't matter to you, I suppose. And yes, I am utterly surprised - surprised and shocked - that your position agrees with that which would likely be found among the right wing nutters on Gab, Parler, Reddit and so forth.

[Cunt]

I noticed neither of you addressed the facts, instead paying attention to me somehow or other.

I saw the first video. I don't know what procedures were in that job, but that is what would determine if the officer was following bad procedure, or inventing bad procedure, or deliberately killing someone in front of a bunch of people.

No need for you guys to watch the case. There will be riots. No matter the outcome of the case.

As an aside, do you know what the cause of death was, for most of the people killed in WWII?

[Hermit]

I noticed neither of you addressed the facts

Learn to read.

Yes, I have seen the second Floyd vid. It does not convince me that the cop was justified in killing him.

two autopsies found Floyd's death to be a homicide

the cop spent over nine minutes choking him with his knee. I would think that even the fittest person would have died from being choked in less time than that

if the murder trial, which began four days ago, determines otherwise, I'll change my mind provided there has been no skulduggery going on behind the scenes.

It does not matter when Floyd first said he can't breathe. He was handcuffed for the entire time Chauvin choked him with his knee, and Chauvin continued choking him for two or three minutes after Floyd became unresponsive.

And now for the irony:

instead paying attention to me somehow or other.

I know it doesn't matter to you. It's unsurprising that your position agrees with that which would likely be found on 'The View'.

[Cunt]

So no acknowledgement that the cop may have been following bad procedures. With all the cops around, I would think it possible.

No acknowledgement that Floyd asked to be held on the ground, nor wondering why the cops chose to grant his request.

Not much attention to that second tape at all, nor why it took so long to come out, considering the fuller context it provided for the events around this prominent death.

I'm not playing a game when I asked what you think the cause of death was in the war. I'll give you some food for thought - there are only 4 or 6 options. EVERY death gets put in one of those categories. A medical examiner doesn't find a murderer, or a murder. They find a homicide, suicide, accident etc.

Their 'ruling' doesn't mean one of the 4 cops was guilty. (Though if one is, I think all four of them might be guilty of something)

We'll find out soon, but whatever the findings, I'm guessing riots. I wish I wasn't so cynical about it, but I think there can really be only two outcomes, and in either case, if I had a building to care for there, I would be boarding up.

Anyone want to go apply for a cop job there? I think they need some kind of help.

[Hermit]

So no acknowledgement that the cop may have been following bad procedures.

He may well have. Keeping a knee on a handcuffed man's neck for near enough to nine minutes does not strike me as good procedure. It killed a handcuffed man. Two sets of autopsy results publicized on June 1, 2020, determined that Floyd's death was a homicide. The cop, Derek Chauvin is charged with second-degree unintentional murder and second-degree manslaughter. Officers Kueng, Lane, and Thao are charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder. Chauvin's trial is scheduled for March 8, 2021, while the concurrent trial of the other three officers is scheduled for August 23, 2021.

[pErvinalia]

I noticed neither of you addressed the facts

You implied the media was covering up the fact that he was susceptible to breathing difficulties, and I pointed out the first story I saw explained just that. You're wrong, again. Again.

[Cunt]

I believe you, but remember them batting around a 3rd degree charge.

It'll be resolved (or successfully stalled) soon enough. I guess I wasn't being too cynical by suggesting I would brace for riots.

'Cynical' would be speculating that the trial(s) drag out for MONTHS of riots.

Nice to see you too, pErv.

[BarnettNewman]

Oh, he does do fact-checks, and you can say anything about me with imputiny, but why not fact-check him?

Oh, right, it's easier to vaguely suggest I'm wrong about something, but stay non-specific.

How about telling me what you think he's wrong about? His jokes are jokes, remember, so pick something he really meant, rather than taking a joke literally.

Vagueness, you say?


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[Brian Peacock]

Getting back to the topic of the thread, I came across an interesting study on bias in news coverage from about a year ago. Here's the abstract, but the link will take you to the entire article.

There is no liberal media bias in which news stories political journalists choose to cover

Abstract
Is the media biased against conservatives? Although a dominant majority of journalists identify as liberals/Democrats and many Americans and public officials frequently decry supposedly high and increasing levels of media bias, little compelling evidence exists as to (i) the ideological or partisan leanings of the many journalists who fail to answer surveys and/or identify as independents and (ii) whether journalists’ political leanings bleed into the choice of which stories to cover that Americans ultimately consume. Using a unique combination of a large-scale survey of political journalists, data from journalists’ Twitter networks, election returns, a large-scale correspondence experiment, and a conjoint survey experiment, we show definitively that the media exhibits no bias against conservatives (or liberals for that matter) in what news that they choose to cover. This shows that journalists’ individual ideological leanings have unexpectedly little effect on the vitally important, but, up to this point, unexplored, early stage of political news generation.

That's a very interesting read

[Brian Peacock]

A bit of a spat, about a cat, involving a man in a beanie hat.

'YouTube Star Tim Pool's News Site Collapses Amid Allegations He Took a Cat Hostage'

All is not well in the burgeoning media empire of YouTube political commentator Tim Pool. Amid an acrimonious falling out over who controls the future of a digital news site that Pool helped launch, the YouTube star is facing accusations from former partners that he used a cat named Betsy as a hostage in business negotiations, only handing the pet over after police were called.

“He was trying to use my cat as leverage,” said Emily Molli, Betsy’s owner and a former Pool business partner.

Pool says he never had custody of the cat, whose return to Molli was eventually arranged through an animal shelter and a Maryland sheriff’s lieutenant.

When he’s not facing cat-related accusations, Pool is living the life of a YouTube star.

...

The allegations that Pool used a cat as a bargaining chip in a business dispute go beyond the fate of Betsy, who is now back with Molli in Los Angeles.

The fracas sheds new light on how Pool and his co-founders failed to launch a news site amid infighting, despite more than $1 million in crowdfunded backing. This year was supposed to be the time that Pool’s news company approached 50 staffers and opened satellite offices in Los Angeles and Chicago, according to a pitch deck shown to investors. Instead, Pool has wondered whether his site even exists anymore as a going concern.

What a pussy.