Media Bias

[Hermit]

What's amusing is that you think those visual memes comprise an effective rejoinder to Hermit's detailed post.

I just remember that Clarence Thomas is a Trump supporter, and what Hermit said about them.

Blacks for Trump. Both of them.

I bet you don't know that there were Jewish Nazis in Hitler's Germany. One of Admiral Bernhard Rogge's grandparents was a Jew. The father of Field Marshal Erhard Milch was a Jew. The co-founder of the SS (the other was Adolf Hitler), Emil Maurice, had a Jewish great-grandfather. Proof that Hitler's supporters were not racist scum?

[Cunt]

What's amusing is that you think those visual memes comprise an effective rejoinder to Hermit's detailed post.

I just remember that Clarence Thomas is a Trump supporter, and what Hermit said about them.

Blacks for Trump. Both of them.

I bet you don't know that there were Jewish Nazis in Hitler's Germany. One of Admiral Bernhard Rogge's grandparents was a Jew. The father of Field Marshal Erhard Milch was a Jew. The co-founder of the SS (the other was Adolf Hitler), Emil Maurice, had a Jewish great-grandfather. Proof that Hitler's supporters were not racist scum?

I have some idea what racist means to you. I know enough Trump supporters to know how to understand your usage of the word.

[JimC]

Again, as usual, you come up with a meaningless rejoinder, that tries to be snarky, but ends up being incoherent.

[Hermit]

What's amusing is that you think those visual memes comprise an effective rejoinder to Hermit's detailed post.

I just remember that Clarence Thomas is a Trump supporter, and what Hermit said about them.

Blacks for Trump. Both of them.

I bet you don't know that there were Jewish Nazis in Hitler's Germany. One of Admiral Bernhard Rogge's grandparents was a Jew. The father of Field Marshal Erhard Milch was a Jew. The co-founder of the SS (the other was Adolf Hitler), Emil Maurice, had a Jewish great-grandfather. Proof that Hitler's supporters were not racist scum?

I have some idea what racist means to you. I know enough Trump supporters to know how to understand your usage of the word.

More importantly, I know who the racist scum are: Trump supporters, exceptions notwithstanding.

[Brian Peacock]

Trump supporters will not replace us!

[Hermit]

Trump supporters will not replace us!

They keep trying, though. The 6th of January event failed. Now they're hoping to succeed on the 4th of April. Racist scum will never give up.

[Scot Dutchy]

What happened to the 4th of March? Trump's inauguration? Have they moved that to the 4th of April?

[Brian Peacock]

Trump supporters will not replace us!

They keep trying, though. The 6th of January event failed. Now they're hoping to succeed on the 4th of April. Racist scum will never give up.

I chided Seabass a while back for characterising Trump supporters as a racist demographic. My views have evolved a bit since. While not all Trump supporters are overtly racist, the majority of them are at least OK enough with racism and at least happy enough to tolerate the overt racism of their fellow idolaters. To some extent tolerating racism and racists is seen as a relatively small price to pay for the ordered gains promised to them in return for ignoring it - specifically because they don't see how racism impeaches upon their daily lives.

Some might say that there's no rational definition of racism and so it's impossible to tell if person A or person N is a real racist. This is nonsense of course - they know as well as we what is meant by 'racism' - but if we can't tell who is and who isn't racist then talking about racism is socially redundant and/or politically moot. People who say that just haven't been listening to the people at the shitty end of the stick. To say that isn't just to turn a blind eye to racism in society, but to be complicit in maintaining and, by that, perpetuating it.

One can say similar things about sexism, ableism, or religiophobia etc, and Trump supporters seem to tick a lot of those boxes too.

[Scot Dutchy]

How much 'black' is required to be deemed 'black'?

[Brian Peacock]

As much as is required.

[Hermit]

Trump supporters will not replace us!

They keep trying, though. The 6th of January event failed. Now they're hoping to succeed on the 4th of April. Racist scum will never give up.

I chided Seabass a while back for characterising Trump supporters as a racist demographic. My views have evolved a bit since. While not all Trump supporters are overtly racist, the majority of them are at least OK enough with racism and at least happy enough to tolerate the overt racism of their fellow idolaters. To some extent tolerating racism and racists is seen as a relatively small price to pay for the ordered gains promised to them in return for ignoring it - specifically because they don't see how racism impeaches upon their daily lives.

Some might say that there's no rational definition of racism and so it's impossible to tell if person A or person N is a real racist. This is nonsense of course - they know as well as we what is meant by 'racism' - but if we can't tell who is and who isn't racist then talking about racism is socially redundant and/or politically moot. People who say that just haven't been listening to the people at the shitty end of the stick. To say that isn't just to turn a blind eye to racism in society, but to be complicit in maintaining and, by that, perpetuating it.

One can say similar things about sexism, ableism, or religiophobia etc, and Trump supporters seem to tick a lot of those boxes too.

True.

[Scot Dutchy]

And how much is that? A grandparent?

[Hermit]

And how much is that?

As much as is required.

[Scot Dutchy]

For you Hermit a very fluid answer.

[Brian Peacock]

For you Hermit a very fluid answer.

If it's not fluid, at least in the minds of racists, then what do you think the formal, definitive answer to your question about 'how black is black' is?

What Hermit and I are saying is that there is no absolute determinant which forms the basis of this kind of bigotry. The problem in thinking that there's a reasoned or rational definition of a racist is that it assumes that racism must have some rational basis in reality. The only people who think that are racists.