Who said that nobody would ever treat a man like that?Forty Two wrote:Given the way Trump is body shamed for his hands and penis, fat-shamed for being overweight, fashion-shamed for the way he dresses, shamed again for his hair and skin tone, talked down to, told he's stupid, and assumed to be incompetent at his job, he must be a woman. Nobody would ever treat a man like that.
Seabass wrote:You're such an idiot. How did you end up this way? What the fuck is the matter with you?Forty Two wrote:Given the way Trump is body shamed for his hands and penis, fat-shamed for being overweight, fashion-shamed for the way he dresses, shamed again for his hair and skin tone, talked down to, told he's stupid, and assumed to be incompetent at his job, he must be a woman. Nobody would ever treat a man like that.
To be fair to 42, this is just another of his lame attempts of humour, typically consisting of parodying what he quaintly imagines to be an ultra-PC liberalSeabass wrote:You're such an idiot. How did you end up this way? What the fuck is the matter with you?Forty Two wrote:Given the way Trump is body shamed for his hands and penis, fat-shamed for being overweight, fashion-shamed for the way he dresses, shamed again for his hair and skin tone, talked down to, told he's stupid, and assumed to be incompetent at his job, he must be a woman. Nobody would ever treat a man like that.
Trump is one of the biggest assholes in America. He feuds with everyone, he calls people names, he insults people, he even mocked a disabled person. He's also a racist, sexist xenophobe. Do you think he'd be so hated if he were a nice guy?
Yeah, Trump just had his name questioned, because his grandfather used a different one back in the old country.Brian Peacock wrote:But at least nobody has kick-started a political campaign off the back of disputing his parentage and nationality eh?Forty Two wrote:Given the way Trump is body shamed for his hands and penis, fat-shamed for being overweight, fashion-shamed for the way he dresses, shamed again for his hair and skin tone, talked down to, told he's stupid, and assumed to be incompetent at his job, he must be a woman. Nobody would ever treat a man like that.
It's a feminist trope, that women are subjected to body shaming and objectification when men aren't. The reality is, it happens just as much to men, it's just interpreted generally as worse when done to women. It's o.k. to comment and even mock a man's looks, but not nearly as o.k. to do so to a woman. If someone comments on Trump's hair, it's no big deal, but comment on a female politician's hair and the feminists say it only happens to women because they're not taken seriously as politicians etc etc etc.pErvinalia wrote:Who said that nobody would ever treat a man like that?Forty Two wrote:Given the way Trump is body shamed for his hands and penis, fat-shamed for being overweight, fashion-shamed for the way he dresses, shamed again for his hair and skin tone, talked down to, told he's stupid, and assumed to be incompetent at his job, he must be a woman. Nobody would ever treat a man like that.
...and by parodying, it's really just using almost precisely the language they use...it's common intersectional feminist claptrap. The reason it sounds so ridiculous, is that they're language and ideological positions are really that ridiculous.JimC wrote:To be fair to 42, this is just another of his lame attempts of humour, typically consisting of parodying what he quaintly imagines to be an ultra-PC liberalSeabass wrote:You're such an idiot. How did you end up this way? What the fuck is the matter with you?Forty Two wrote:Given the way Trump is body shamed for his hands and penis, fat-shamed for being overweight, fashion-shamed for the way he dresses, shamed again for his hair and skin tone, talked down to, told he's stupid, and assumed to be incompetent at his job, he must be a woman. Nobody would ever treat a man like that.
Trump is one of the biggest assholes in America. He feuds with everyone, he calls people names, he insults people, he even mocked a disabled person. He's also a racist, sexist xenophobe. Do you think he'd be so hated if he were a nice guy?
The Trump rollerball famously started on the back of his vociferous opposition to the presidency of someone he considered his social inferior. Which political aspirants kick started off their campaigns off the back of the claims and complaints mentioned above?Forty Two wrote:Yeah, Trump just had his name questioned, because his grandfather used a different one back in the old country.Brian Peacock wrote:But at least nobody has kick-started a political campaign off the back of disputing his parentage and nationality eh?Forty Two wrote:Given the way Trump is body shamed for his hands and penis, fat-shamed for being overweight, fashion-shamed for the way he dresses, shamed again for his hair and skin tone, talked down to, told he's stupid, and assumed to be incompetent at his job, he must be a woman. Nobody would ever treat a man like that.
Meh, anybody born under similar circumstances has such campaigns against them. John McCain was subjected to civil suits challenging his right to be President because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Ted Cruz had his right questioned because of his Canadian birth (and they were right about that - good thing he didn't come close, because that fucker was ineligible). And, Chester A. Arthur's political opponents claimed he was born in Canada and was ineligible to run. Congressmen in the 1960s questioned George Romney's right to be President. And Barry Goldwater's eligibility was questioned because he was born in the Arizona Territory before it was a State.
The fairness of it all always seems to depend on whose ox is being gored.
No, it fucking isn't. One person who got pissed off about that demonstrated it by example on TV. For one fucking year.Forty Two wrote:It's a feminist trope, that women are subjected to body shaming and objectification when men aren't. The reality is, it happens just as much to men, it's just interpreted generally as worse when done to women.
LinkAngered by the sexism he saw being heaped upon his female colleagues – and attempts to downplay it – Karl Stefanovic decided to conduct an experiment.
He wore the same blue suit on air, two days in a row. Then three. A month ticked by without a ripple.
Now, a full year has passed – and he is still wearing the same cheap Burberry knock-off, every morning, on Channel Nine's Today program.
Not a single audience member has asked about it, he says. Fashion commentators and other media also seem oblivious.
Yet co-host Lisa Wilkinson still receives regular and unsolicited fashion appraisals, as she revealed in her well-received Andrew Olle lecture last year. ("Who the heck is Lisa's stylist?" one emailer demanded to know. "Today's outfit is particularly jarring and awful. Get some style.") These same viewers, however, have failed to observe – or simply don't care – that the man beside her happily slips on the same outfit, day after day.
"No one has noticed; no one gives a shit," Stefanovic tells Fairfax Media. "But women, they wear the wrong colour and they get pulled up. They say the wrong thing and there's thousands of tweets written about them."
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"I'm judged on my interviews, my appalling sense of humour – on how I do my job, basically. Whereas women are quite often judged on what they're wearing or how their hair is ... that's [what I wanted to test]."
You're missing the point Hermy. I think we can all agree that the real trouble with feminism is that it disproportionately focuses on the experience of women. That this TV guy didn't get picked up on his fashion incompetence just reinforces the silent discrimination men have to deal with every day. Surely, in this modern, progressive age of so-called equality, isn't it time that men were subjected to exactly the same kind of shit as women are subjected to? I mean, what's a boy got to do to get noticed these days?!!Hermit wrote:No, it fucking isn't. One person who got pissed off about that demonstrated it by example on TV. For one fucking year....Forty Two wrote:It's a feminist trope, that women are subjected to body shaming and objectification when men aren't. The reality is, it happens just as much to men, it's just interpreted generally as worse when done to women.
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