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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:01 pm

Yeah, it's a big nothing burger. What documents did he have? They were related to nuclear secrets, possible plans to respond to attack--big whoop, he took them when he cleaned out his office. :roll: Without knowing what they say, how do you decide to be worried or not? For all I know they're bullet points and generic summaries given to staff prior to visiting with various department heads, classified by default, and worth exactly squat in the absence of people capable of providing details, which Lord knows Trump couldn't do 5 minutes after a meeting...

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Anyway, how do they arrest this guy? How does that work? It has to be some kind of house arrest right?

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Post by JimC » Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:48 pm

Sean, even if the documents were fairly vanilla, it would seem that the legal people allege that he has in fact broken laws. Those laws must be there for a reason, and a prosecution is needed to show that no one is above the law.
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Post by Tero » Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:05 pm

Thousands of black men are in jail for having enough pot on them to be labeled a dealer. Some are there for stealing a pair of socks or a bottle of headache pills. Trump may get an ankle monitor.

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Post by macdoc » Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:04 am

I think the damning one is the conspiracy aspect.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:21 am

JimC wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:48 pm
Sean, even if the documents were fairly vanilla, it would seem that the legal people allege that he has in fact broken laws. Those laws must be there for a reason, and a prosecution is needed to show that no one is above the law.
Unfortunately Jim it's too easy to run afoul of laws and find yourself prosecuted on a technicality, which is then sold to the public as something else entirely. To borrow from Tero's comment, a black man may technically have enough dope to classify him as a dealer in the eyes of the law, despite never having sold drugs in his life.

It's obvious the national security risk angle is being pushed here, and why not, it's not impossible that Trump's mishandling of these documents has hurt our interests. Trump may have used them for personal gain, or may still be using them today in some sick scheme to get leverage somewhere. --who knows? The man lives inside his own ass, and rarely interacts with the world the rest of us inhabit.

My comment was really just a complaint about the need to feel some kind of way about the risk without knowing much of anything one way or the other...so yeah, prosecute him, but the drama surrounding security is a nothing burger to me.

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:41 am

So, will they give him a vacation in sunny Cuba at the expense of the state?
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Post by macdoc » Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:51 am

More like an overdue enema..
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:17 am

I'm really glad I don't live in the US. If he gets jailed all hell could break loose. I'd honestly look to migrate if I lived there.
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Post by Tero » Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:38 am

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I'm really glad I don't live in the US. If he gets jailed all hell could break loose. I'd honestly look to migrate if I lived there.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:41 am

Fox goes full r*tard. Image
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Post by Tero » Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:57 pm

Trump was going to break laws. Because he is a revolutionary! Voters thought it a plus. From 4 minutes.


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Post by tattuchu » Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:51 pm

After Trump’s arraignment, he stopped at Miami’s popular Cuban restaurant Versailles Café and promised supporters he was buying “food for everyone.”

... It turns out he left without paying for a single item. Whoopsie-daisy!
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Post by rainbow » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:23 pm

Tero wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:05 pm
Thousands of black men are in jail for having enough pot on them to be labeled a dealer. Some are there for stealing a pair of socks or a bottle of headache pills. Trump may get an ankle monitor.
There is this quaint belief that the legal system has something to do with justice.

It exists to protect the rich and powerful from their moral responsibilities towards their workers, the environment and society in general.

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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:55 am

Some of the judgments and opinions produced over the years by SCOTUS are obvious prooof of creative and imaginative minds misused in the legal field.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:39 am

Svartalf wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:55 am
Some of the judgments and opinions produced over the years by SCOTUS are obvious prooof of creative and imaginative minds misused in the legal field.
You may enjoy the Five-Four podcast, Svartalf. Can also be read as transcripts if that is preferable. Their tagline is 'a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks.' ;)

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