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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:57 pm

Is that the sound of an ad hom ignoring the point?
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Seth » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:47 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Still waiting to hear your thoughts on anarchism btw.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by JimC » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:49 pm

Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Still waiting to hear your thoughts on anarchism btw.
Libertarianism is narcissistic megalomaniacal delusional psychosis and its proponents need to be locked up as a matter of public safety and sanitation.
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Re: The Donald-thread

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Tero wrote:Seth, those presidents, even Carter, represent voters. Not you. Run for sheriff if you like.
Doesn't mean they weren't fuckwits. Remember, many voters are fuckwits too. Anyone who takes public assistance or who doesn't own real property should be denied a vote.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Seth » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:50 pm

JimC wrote:
Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Still waiting to hear your thoughts on anarchism btw.
Socialism is narcissistic megalomaniacal delusional psychosis and its proponents need to be locked up as a matter of public safety and sanitation.
Fixed...
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:58 pm

Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Still waiting to hear your thoughts on anarchism btw.
Anarchism is narcissistic megalomaniacal delusional psychosis and its proponents need to be locked up as a matter of public safety and sanitation.
OK. So the questions remain unanswered, a discussion is clumsily sidestepped, and your position (such that it is) remains supported by naught but grandiose declarations. In the meantime there's still nothing but the finest grade of cigarette papers between Anarchism and Libertarianism - but at least Anarchism has the balls to be honest about itself.

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:44 am

I see Trump has called on Russia to break the law by hacking Hillary's email. Unbelievable that a country could have such an immature and potentially criminal person running for president.
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Post by DRSB » Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:54 am

Michael Bloomberg, a brand-name billionaire far wealthier than Donald Trump, a famously independent voter who derides both the Democratic and Republican parties, endorsed Hillary Clinton on Wednesday and called Trump a “risky, radical and reckless choice” for president.

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Post by Animavore » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:25 am

Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by rachelbean » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:34 am

Seth wrote:Anyone who takes public assistance or who doesn't own real property should be denied a vote.
I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but wow.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:37 am

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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:42 pm

rachelbean wrote:
Seth wrote:Anyone who takes public assistance or who doesn't own real property should be denied a vote.
I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but wow.
At this point, I think Presidential elections are a big waste of time, energy, and money. Let's switch to the civilized system used by most western countries. We should have the legislature pick the President by letting the party that controls the majority of seats in the House of Representatives pick the President from its ranks. That is, after all, what civilized democracies do. :biggrin:
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:35 pm

I like the USs "America's Next Top Monarch" game show. It's a ratings winner and no mistake, and a great shame we have to wait four years between seasons.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:45 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:I like the USs "America's Next Top Monarch" game show. It's a ratings winner and no mistake, and a great shame we have to wait four years between seasons.
Four years? This thing has been going on for about 18 months now. LOL.

It has turned into a reality game show, that's for sure. Back in the day, nobody really saw the sausage being made, as the primary processes were largely uninteresting, and uncovered. People just didn't follow them like they do today, and they certainly did not nit-pick over ever word, every eyebrow raise, and sit and hand-wring over ever speech. We have pundits on shows discussing what other pundits have said about what the candidates said....

It really has become something different over the last three or four elections.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Seth » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:55 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Still waiting to hear your thoughts on anarchism btw.
Anarchism is narcissistic megalomaniacal delusional psychosis and its proponents need to be locked up as a matter of public safety and sanitation.
OK. So the questions remain unanswered, a discussion is clumsily sidestepped, and your position (such that it is) remains supported by naught but grandiose declarations. In the meantime there's still nothing but the finest grade of cigarette papers between Anarchism and Libertarianism - but at least Anarchism has the balls to be honest about itself.

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What's unanswered? Anarchism is flatly insane. Are there aspects of anarchism that reflect Libertarian theory of individual rights? Of course, but that's like saying that Islamic jihad is fine because it includes "peaceful" references to social harmony and charity among Muslims. The devil is, as usual, in the details.

Anarchism becomes insanity when it refuses to acknowledge any societal constraints on individual behavior at all. That's a psychopathic anti-social defect in both the philosophy and the adherents that makes both very dangerous.

Libertarianism, contrary to the usual lies and propaganda spewed here, is fundamentally a socially oriented philosophy that does not deny the individual's responsibility to others but carefully defines it as a mandatory, positive social duty not to initiate force or fraud against others, which is entirely unlike anarchism. Libertarianism eschews temporizing and fiddly-bits about regulating social interactions that socialism engages in by stating two simple rules for getting along with others in society: Don't initiate force or fraud, and if you do, expect to be held accountable for doing so, regardless of the level of force or fraud initiated. Otherwise, Libertarianism states, leave other people alone and let them do as they wish with what is theirs so long as THEY do not initiate force or fraud against you. That's anything but anarchic.

That's why anarchism and anarchists are insane dangers to society and neither have anything whatever to do with Libertarianism.

The conflation of anarchy with Libertarianism is a leftist/socialist lie and propaganda of monumental and monstrous proportions perpetrated by socialist swine who can't stand the notion of individual liberty or private property.
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