egbert wrote:Seth wrote:
Who cares? I'm fine with socialists driving their economies into the ground and trying to steal people's property, because capital flows away from taxes
Why don't you share your right wing knowledge, and tell us how civilization exists without taxes?

It doesn't. But capital still flows away from taxes, like water. The higher the taxes, the less capital there is around to invest in the economy because it's flowing to lower-tax locations. The trick is to find the happy medium where taxation and capital investment can coexist productively.
Interestingly, when you examine, for example, US income tax rates over the last century, and you plot them against actual dollars of revenue collected by the Treasury, you find an inverse relationship, and the amount of taxes, in actual dollars collected, remains remarkably close to 19 percent of GDP no matter what the marginal tax rate is.
What this indicates is that government spending should be constitutionally limited to, say 15 percent of GDP, so that the government can never burden the economy so much that higher taxation is required.
And the best, fairest, most efficient way to impose those taxes is as a universal 15 percent sales and consumption tax on all goods and services, with no exclusions. That way, people are taxed on how they consume, and people can choose how much tax they pay by modifying their consumption habits, and the wealthiest pay more in absolute terms than the poor because they consume more. Eminently fair, egalitarian and it produces adequate revenues for all truly necessary government operations, leaving the rest of the wealth circulating in the economy, where real people get to use it rather than having it wasted on government.
Of course this means cutting literally all social welfare programs, perhaps with the exception of emergency programs for the truly indigent, which is something that socialists simply cannot comprehend.
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