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Re: Media Bias

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:03 pm

What? I don't care.

Here's an example of bias at work: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblack ... 78f471dc95

It's also an entry point into relevant --but potentially boring-- issues.
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Post by Cunt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:44 pm

Bias in favour of crippling US energy production, which will benefit other nations who produce the needed energy, is pretty boring. We all knew the Biden family is deep in Burisma and the CCP energy business, and of no interest to anyone as long as the US stops production.
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Post by Cunt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:31 pm

According to Portland scientists, antifa has violently opposed release of a book, and caused a bookstore to shut down in order to protect their business.

The book was published by Andy Ngo, who is a reporter that has been critical of the activities of Portland antifa activists.

Of course, the media won't report very much on such an intrusion on free speech, if antifa is still in their good graces.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:53 pm

Hmm. :tea:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by JimC » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:55 pm

As usual, no link, no sources...
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:08 pm

Cunt wrote:
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Bias in favour of crippling US energy production, which will benefit other nations who produce the needed energy, is pretty boring. We all knew the Biden family is deep in Burisma and the CCP energy business, and of no interest to anyone as long as the US stops production.
Who said this would "cripple" US production?

--//--

To me the boring bits are likely thought to be so because they lack that kind of language. Instead of talking about "crippling" US production, people might describe the inefficiencies of this kind of production. Or they might look into the increase of domestic operations and ask how those might offset losing some Canadian imports. Or maybe they'll consider the environmental impacts. Or how this hurts our relationship with Canada.

If it's jobs they're worried about they might identify what kind of jobs are being lost, and whether other infrastructure projects might catch at least some of those workers e.g. welders.

But that all takes real effort, and it's not exciting like assuming a conspiracy, or imagining grand consequences for every act. It's also tedious and less likely to inspire confidence in our views, especially if we aren't experts.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:13 pm

JimC wrote:
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As usual, no link, no sources...
The Dark Horse Podcast. My guess is that you wouldn't want to hear it, but it's easy enough to find. (I even posted a link here somewhere)
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Post by Cunt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:16 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:08 pm
Cunt wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:44 pm
Bias in favour of crippling US energy production, which will benefit other nations who produce the needed energy, is pretty boring. We all knew the Biden family is deep in Burisma and the CCP energy business, and of no interest to anyone as long as the US stops production.
Who said this would "cripple" US production?
Critics of the change. One is Ezra Levant (who authored 'Ethical Oil') and if you want to hear that perspective, it is available.

US energy production affects world markets. If the US stops, energy produced elsewhere becomes magically more valuable. Also, I like Levants point about energy production ruining the environment, and where that ruin belongs. Lots of folk prefer that the mess is in other people's countries, and that seems a bit...off.

--//--

To me the boring bits are likely thought to be so because they lack that kind of language. Instead of talking about "crippling" US production, people might describe the inefficiencies of this kind of production. Or they might look into the increase of domestic operations and ask how those might offset losing some Canadian imports. Or maybe they'll consider the environmental impacts. Or how this hurts our relationship with Canada.

If it's jobs they're worried about they might identify what kind of jobs are being lost, and whether other infrastructure projects might catch at least some of those workers e.g. welders.

But that all takes real effort, and it's not exciting like assuming a conspiracy, or imagining grand consequences for every act. It's also tedious and less likely to inspire confidence in our views, especially if we aren't experts.
I think our government here didn't want the pipeline, and Biden cancelling it gives Trudeau the 'out' he needed. He had been dragging his feet a bit.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:30 pm

I'll check it out. I'm not going to find out he didn't really say this would cripple US production am I? :hehe:
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Post by Cunt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:33 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
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I'll check it out. I'm not going to find out he didn't really say this would cripple US production am I? :hehe:
He uses a lot of hyperbolic language to roast the Dems (he is a 'rightie') but may not have used that phrase.

I try not to listen to him that often, because I don't want to hate him. Honestly right-wing opinions aren't common, and being so disagreeable, are a treasure worth protecting.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:36 pm

God dammit, is he even an oil guy? :lol:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by JimC » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:55 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:36 pm
God dammit, is he even an oil guy? :lol:
Cunt doesn't want to be bothered by boring old facts, promulgated by liberal academics, scientists and analysts. Not when some random podcast by a crazed right-winger can tell him what's really happening... :tea:
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Post by Joe » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:00 am

:hehe:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:03 am

JimC wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:55 am
Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:36 pm
God dammit, is he even an oil guy? :lol:
Cunt doesn't want to be bothered by boring old facts, promulgated by liberal academics, scientists and analysts. Not when some random podcast by a crazed right-winger can tell him what's really happening... :tea:
Bret and Heather explained a lot about the recent activities by antifa, in their efforts to stop a Portland bookstore from selling a book by one of their critics.

It's a lot of fun, if you have an interest in any of the subjects they touch on. I mean, unless you prefer to just stay away from self-identified progressive podcasters. I find free speech issues interesting, so enjoyed it.

I can understand why one might not. :tea:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by JimC » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:13 am

Here is a CNN report:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/us/p ... index.html

As for the protests about the bookstore selling the book, I would not support that, if for no other reason than it will probably increase sales in the long run, but also because banning books in general is not a good idea. See, no automatic leftist reflex to support the protesters...
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