Enjoy President Trump, Courtesy of The Kremlin

[L'Emmerdeur]

Who is surprised that the Russians tried to hack a voting software company. I'd be surprised if the US and other countries were not trying to hack into voting software company computers. Does anyone think MI6 and the CIA are not engaged in massive hacking efforts?

It doesn't look like the efforts succeeded. Most US voting is done rather manually. You have a piece of paper on which you fill in little ovals (like a standardized test) and then that paper/card is run through a stand-alone scanning device that reads the ovals and records the votes. The paper is kept separately if anything needs to be verified. There are other options, but hacking a software company would not really impact a general election, because there is no centralized system, each State sets up its own voting method, run through its own department of elections.

Not sure what the Russians hacking has to do with Trump, unless someone is saying Trump was in league with the Russians to accomplish the hacking....

It seems to me that you didn't read the article. If you did, your response is nothing but disingenuous.

Meanwhile: "White House Looked to Drop Russia Sanctions—Even After Firing Michael Flynn"

[Forty Two]

It seems to me that you didn't read the article. If you did, your response is nothing but disingenuous.

Incisive point, well reasoned.

[pErvinalia]

Who is surprised that the Russians tried to hack a voting software company. I'd be surprised if the US and other countries were not trying to hack into voting software company computers. Does anyone think MI6 and the CIA are not engaged in massive hacking efforts?

It doesn't look like the efforts succeeded. Most US voting is done rather manually. You have a piece of paper on which you fill in little ovals (like a standardized test) and then that paper/card is run through a stand-alone scanning device that reads the ovals and records the votes. The paper is kept separately if anything needs to be verified. There are other options, but hacking a software company would not really impact a general election, because there is no centralized system, each State sets up its own voting method, run through its own department of elections.

Not sure what the Russians hacking has to do with Trump, unless someone is saying Trump was in league with the Russians to accomplish the hacking....

The Russians wanted Trump in as prez. And now Trump is cozying up to Russia, the country that attempted to subvert your democracy.

He really is a dodgy cunt. He's cozying up to authoritarians all over the place - Putin, Saudi Arabia, Duterte.

"Yeah, but HILLARY!"

[Scot Dutchy]

Vote numbers are stored on computers. Get it. Trump won three states very marginally.

[L'Emmerdeur]

It seems to me that you didn't read the article. If you did, your response is nothing but disingenuous.

Incisive point, well reasoned.

There is nothing in that article that justifies the statement "It doesn't look like the efforts succeeded."

The NSA, however, is uncertain about the results of the attack, according to the report. “It is unknown,” the NSA notes, “whether the aforementioned spear-phishing deployment successfully compromised the intended victims, and what potential data could have been accessed by the cyber actor.”

[L'Emmerdeur]

"Russian Cyber Hacks on U.S. Electoral System Far Wider Than Previously Known"

Russia’s cyberattack on the U.S. electoral system before Donald Trump’s election was far more widespread than has been publicly revealed, including incursions into voter databases and software systems in almost twice as many states as previously reported.

In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said.

[Forty Two]

Vote numbers are stored on computers. Get it. Trump won three states very marginally.

Not exactly. The vote numbers are counted precinct by precinct -- and there are about 175,000 voting precincts in the US. They are not generally connected. Each precinct "reports" its results.

Trump won some states marginally. Clinton won some states marginally. Every election, some states are won marginally. That fact alone does not suggest someone is cheating, and there is no evidence Trump was cheating. There was, of course, evidence that Clinton campaign people were cheating. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa ... g-n2234276 and https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... efe-sting/

Foval is filmed telling hidden-camera-toting journalists about how they have disrupted Republican events. Foval also goes on at length about how an organization might cover up in-person voter fraud. In another Tuesday night statement, the Creamer-founded Democracy Partners, which used Foval as a contractor, denounced both Project Veritas and the statements caught on camera.

The result of all that was that the “Rigging the Election” videos got a skeptical reception — at first. But the video of Foval, a Wisconsin-based politico with a long résumé, had him bragging about a litany of political dirty tricks. In the first video, he boasts of “conflict engagement in the lines of Trump rallies,” takes credit for the violence that canceled a Trump rally at the University of Illinois at Chicago, admits he has paid “mentally ill” people to start trouble and says there's a “Pony Express” that keeps Democratic operatives in touch, regardless of whether they work for super PACs or the campaigns not permitted to coordinate with super PACs.

Donna Brazile admitted to cheating - http://observer.com/2017/03/donna-brazi ... y-clinton/

They robbed Bernie Sanders of the nomination - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 08451.html

[Brian Peacock]

People lie to avoid the consequences of the truth. Sessions lied, denied, and lied again.

[JimC]

The truth is not in him...

[Sean Hayden]

People lie to avoid the consequences of the truth. Sessions lied, denied, and lied again.

So, consequences are very often shit. And certainly demonstrating that someone has gone to great lengths to avoid them can't be trusted as a means of discovering wrong doing on their part. In fact, I don't think I much care for most "consequences", remember this is america, christ, this is a nation that elected Trump. If you ain't lying here, you may be a highly immoral twat!

[Brian Peacock]

Lying is the new truth...

[Scot Dutchy]

It is 1984. Doublespeek is the newspeek.

[Sean Hayden]

It's just people all the way down.

highly immoral twat

-gold,

[L'Emmerdeur]

"Election Hackers Altered Voter Rolls, Stole Private Data, Officials Say"

The hacking of state and local election databases in 2016 was more extensive than previously reported, including at least one successful attempt to alter voter information, and the theft of thousands of voter records that contain private information like partial Social Security numbers, current and former officials tell TIME.

In one case, investigators found there had been a manipulation of voter data in a county database but the alterations were discovered and rectified, two sources familiar with the matter tell TIME. Investigators have not identified whether the hackers in that case were Russian agents.

The fact that private data was stolen from states is separately providing investigators a previously unreported line of inquiry in the probes into Russian attempts to influence the election. In Illinois, more than 90% of the nearly 90,000 records stolen by Russian state actors contained drivers license numbers, and a quarter contained the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers, according to Ken Menzel, the General Counsel of the State Board of Elections.

Congressional investigators are probing whether any of this stolen private information made its way to the Trump campaign, two sources familiar with the investigations tell TIME.

“If any campaign, Trump or otherwise, used inappropriate data the questions are, How did they get it? From whom? And with what level of knowledge?” the former top Democratic staffer on the House Intelligence Committee, Michael Bahar, tells TIME. “That is a crux of the investigation."

Spokesmen for the House and Senate Intelligence committees declined to comment on the search for stolen data. No one contacted for this story said they had seen evidence that the stolen, private, data had actually made its way to the Trump campaign.

The House Intelligence Committee plans to seek testimony this summer from Brad Parscale, the digital director of the Trump campaign, CNN reported last week. Hill investigators in February asked the White House and law enforcement agencies to ensure that all materials relating to contacts between the Trump administration, transition team and campaign had with the Russians had been preserved. Parscale did not return messages requesting comment for this story. Trump’s press secretary, Sean Spicer, referred questions regarding the investigations to Trump’s legal team, which did not respond to requests for comment.

Both intelligence committees are looking at whether and how the intrusions could have furthered Russia’s larger strategic goals of undermining U.S. democracy, hurting Hillary Clinton and helping Donald Trump. During the run up to the vote, Obama Administration cyber-security officials took steps to prepare for widespread voter registration manipulation, fearing Russia might seek to cause chaos at polling places to undermine the credibility of the election. Current and former law enforcement and intelligence officials say Russia could also have tried to use stolen voter data to gain leverage over witting or unwitting accomplices in the Trump camp, by involving them in a broader conspiracy.

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah, but Hillary was really bad at email...