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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Tero » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:03 am

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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:51 am

Seth wrote:
eRvin wrote: :fp: He's talking about actual libertarianism, not Merka's bastardised version.
You don't begin to understand "actual libertarianism" and never have, and probably never will, and probably willfully and intentionally so because otherwise you'd have no favorite strawman to trot out whenever you feel like presenting egregiously ignorant, ill mannered and intellectually dishonest bilge.
Reality just has no bearing on you, does it?! :fp:
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:00 am

Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Anarchism is Libertarianism with balls.

Just saying :tea:
Only if you hold an idiotic and completely false understanding of Libertarianism, which has nothing to do with anarchy.
Who's talking about anarchy? I said 'anarchism' not anarchy.
A distinction without a difference I'm afraid.
You were imprecise, anarchy being a state of lawless disorder while anarchism encompasses some quite cogent brands of political philosophy.
Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Do you believe that individuals are wholly autonomous agents, free to chose their own values, goals, and actions; that this autonomous state of absolute freedom for the individual is an uncompromising virtue, one which is similar or equivalent to an inherent right in both form and practice; that the individual has no autonomy-compromising content-independent or pre-emptive obligation to conform to or obey authority; that authority does not and cannot reside in any notion of a justified coercion, either self-declared or granted? If so, then anarchism's your thing.
Which is why anarchism is idiotic and anarchists are fucking idiots of the highest order and are NOT Libertarians.
Which is why why exactly?

Do you not believe that individuals are wholly autonomous agents?
Do you not believe that individual autonomy is similar or equivalent to an inherent right?
Do you believe that the individual has content-independent obligations to conform to or obey authority?
Do you believe that authority is legitimised through the concept of justified coercion?
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by DRSB » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:18 am

Tyrannical wrote:
So is it Putin or the actual hackers that get the Nobel prize for this revalation?
"Putin's Buddy"?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/put ... 5d5ed2476b

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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:22 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Do you believe that individuals are wholly autonomous agents, free to chose their own values, goals, and actions; that this autonomous state of absolute freedom for the individual is an uncompromising virtue, one which is similar or equivalent to an inherent right in both form and practice; that the individual has no autonomy-compromising content-independent or pre-emptive obligation to conform to or obey authority; that authority does not and cannot reside in any notion of a justified coercion, either self-declared or granted? If so, then anarchism's your thing.
Which is why anarchism is idiotic and anarchists are fucking idiots of the highest order and are NOT Libertarians.
Which is why why exactly?

Do you not believe that individuals are wholly autonomous agents?
Do you not believe that individual autonomy is similar or equivalent to an inherent right?
Do you believe that the individual has content-independent obligations to conform to or obey authority?
Do you believe that authority is legitimised through the concept of justified coercion?
He believes that you are a tricksy Marxist. And frankly, I think he is right. :coffee:
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Hermit » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:37 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:Trump. Trump, Trump and even more Trump.

http://www.fountainfacts.com/2016/07/br ... ulian.html
Articles from the same website:

Scientist Says He Found Definitive Proof That God Exists. He is "One of the most respected scientists of today", you know?

NASA dropped a 2-ton kinetic missile on the moon: What did they destroy? Alien structures, apparently. There's proof for it too. Of course. A genuine, no bullshit Youtube clip.

Of course there probably has been life on Mars. NASA Has Discovered Ancient Petroglyphs And Statues On Mars They were Egyptians.

And then there's the ever popular Truther stuff: CIA Pilot Presents Evidence That No Planes Hit Towers On 9/11 "Physically impossible" he says, and gives a convincing explanation. It's convincing because he is the grandson of the founder of the Learjet corporation, and a very experienced pilot to boot.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by cronus » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:41 am

Where folks can make you believe absurdities they'll maybe be making you commit or suffer from atrocities. (Trumps Law - because Godwins law was not enough)

What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?

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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:44 am

Hermit wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:Trump. Trump, Trump and even more Trump.

http://www.fountainfacts.com/2016/07/br ... ulian.html
Articles from the same website:

Scientist Says He Found Definitive Proof That God Exists. He is "One of the most respected scientists of today", you know?

NASA dropped a 2-ton kinetic missile on the moon: What did they destroy? Alien structures, apparently. There's proof for it too. Of course. A genuine, no bullshit Youtube clip.

Of course there probably has been life on Mars. NASA Has Discovered Ancient Petroglyphs And Statues On Mars They were Egyptians.

And then there's the ever popular Truther stuff: CIA Pilot Presents Evidence That No Planes Hit Towers On 9/11 "Physically impossible" he says, and gives a convincing explanation. It's convincing because he is the grandson of the founder of the Learjet corporation, and a very experienced pilot to boot.
Is this Galaxian's website? :ask:
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:04 am

Probably. :lol:

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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Hermit » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:05 am

eRvin wrote:
Hermit wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:Trump. Trump, Trump and even more Trump.

http://www.fountainfacts.com/2016/07/br ... ulian.html
Articles from the same website:

Scientist Says He Found Definitive Proof That God Exists. He is "One of the most respected scientists of today", you know?

NASA dropped a 2-ton kinetic missile on the moon: What did they destroy? Alien structures, apparently. There's proof for it too. Of course. A genuine, no bullshit Youtube clip.

Of course there probably has been life on Mars. NASA Has Discovered Ancient Petroglyphs And Statues On Mars They were Egyptians.

And then there's the ever popular Truther stuff: CIA Pilot Presents Evidence That No Planes Hit Towers On 9/11 "Physically impossible" he says, and gives a convincing explanation. It's convincing because he is the grandson of the founder of the Learjet corporation, and a very experienced pilot to boot.
Is this Galaxian's website? :ask:
Believe it or not, I regard Galaxian's contributions as a little bit more sensible and a lot more intelligent than anything Dodo comes up with. The "About us" button on the fountain site does not seem to work and Google was of no help either, but I cannot help but think the entire site is a satire or run by some rather cynical rip-off merchants.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:12 am

Yeah, i suspect as far away from the likely truth of the world that Galaxian is, he's a lot closer than Dave. A 20 or 30 something pommy guy who makes US Republicans look tame, is a strange beast indeed. I don't understand how a young pommy winds up like that. :dunno:
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Animavore » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:14 am

I guess it's to be expected from a guy who has some sexual assault and rape allegations of his own.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... -accusers/

Donald Trump this weekend defended longtime friend Roger Ailes, the ousted chief executive of Fox News who is accused of sexually harassing at least two dozen women. Trump also questioned the motives of some of the women.

"I can tell you that some of the women that are complaining, I know how much he's helped them, and even recently. And when they write books that are fairly recently released, and they say wonderful things about him. And now, all of a sudden, they're saying these horrible things about him," Trump said in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" on Saturday evening. "It's very sad because he's a very good person. I've always found him to be just a very, very good person. And, by the way, a very, very talented person. Look what he's done. So I feel very badly."
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:18 am

He can't say anything bad, as he has his own history of sexual misconduct allegations. Allegations that will probably start surfacing again once the campaigning starts.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Animavore » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:19 am

eRvin wrote:He can't say anything bad, as he has his own history of sexual misconduct allegations. Allegations that will probably start surfacing again once the campaigning starts.
Trump supporters will still defend him.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:20 am

He is a macho git. Just look at his present wife; one bloody airhead.
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