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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:36 am

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Ian wrote:There are a handful of real indicators to tell if they're serious about attacking, but they're also good and denial & deception (D&D) techniques. IMO, if and when the big attack finally comes, it'll be preceded by a "routine" crisis and military standup. The Yom Kippur War was preceded by yet another (of many) Egyptian army exercises, with the Israelis telling themselves that an attack was, again, unlikely.

My guess is that there won't be much more for the time being, after the new ROK defense minister said that if Long Dong Il attacks again, they will do something to the effect of "bomb them into submission." I like that dude's style. Clarity and certainty are good qualities.
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Ian wrote:There are a handful of real indicators to tell if they're serious about attacking, but they're also good and denial & deception (D&D) techniques. IMO, if and when the big attack finally comes, it'll be preceded by a "routine" crisis and military standup. The Yom Kippur War was preceded by yet another (of many) Egyptian army exercises, with the Israelis telling themselves that an attack was, again, unlikely.

My guess is that there won't be much more for the time being, after the new ROK defense minister said that if Long Dong Il attacks again, they will do something to the effect of "bomb them into submission." I like that dude's style. Clarity and certainty are good qualities.
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That may well be. However, when dealing with the DPRK, it's best to use the George Costanza method and "do the opposite." It's like a Bizzarro Twilight Zone over there.

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Post by Blondie » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:45 am

The US has a moral obligation to standby their North Korean allies.

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Y'all.
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Gawdzilla wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ian wrote:There are a handful of real indicators to tell if they're serious about attacking, but they're also good and denial & deception (D&D) techniques. IMO, if and when the big attack finally comes, it'll be preceded by a "routine" crisis and military standup. The Yom Kippur War was preceded by yet another (of many) Egyptian army exercises, with the Israelis telling themselves that an attack was, again, unlikely.

My guess is that there won't be much more for the time being, after the new ROK defense minister said that if Long Dong Il attacks again, they will do something to the effect of "bomb them into submission." I like that dude's style. Clarity and certainty are good qualities.
"Ian understands politics better than I do."
Yeah... by the way Coito, it's been more than a month since the midterm elections. Feel free to take that off your signature!

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Ian wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ian wrote:There are a handful of real indicators to tell if they're serious about attacking, but they're also good and denial & deception (D&D) techniques. IMO, if and when the big attack finally comes, it'll be preceded by a "routine" crisis and military standup. The Yom Kippur War was preceded by yet another (of many) Egyptian army exercises, with the Israelis telling themselves that an attack was, again, unlikely.

My guess is that there won't be much more for the time being, after the new ROK defense minister said that if Long Dong Il attacks again, they will do something to the effect of "bomb them into submission." I like that dude's style. Clarity and certainty are good qualities.
"Ian understands politics better than I do."
Yeah... by the way Coito, it's been more than a month since the midterm elections. Feel free to take that off your signature!
I was thinking that you could brand it on his ass.
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Gawdzilla wrote:
Ian wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ian wrote:There are a handful of real indicators to tell if they're serious about attacking, but they're also good and denial & deception (D&D) techniques. IMO, if and when the big attack finally comes, it'll be preceded by a "routine" crisis and military standup. The Yom Kippur War was preceded by yet another (of many) Egyptian army exercises, with the Israelis telling themselves that an attack was, again, unlikely.

My guess is that there won't be much more for the time being, after the new ROK defense minister said that if Long Dong Il attacks again, they will do something to the effect of "bomb them into submission." I like that dude's style. Clarity and certainty are good qualities.
"Ian understands politics better than I do."
Yeah... by the way Coito, it's been more than a month since the midterm elections. Feel free to take that off your signature!
I was thinking that you could brand it on his ass.
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Ian wrote:There are a handful of real indicators to tell if they're serious about attacking, but they're also good and denial & deception (D&D) techniques. IMO, if and when the big attack finally comes, it'll be preceded by a "routine" crisis and military standup. The Yom Kippur War was preceded by yet another (of many) Egyptian army exercises, with the Israelis telling themselves that an attack was, again, unlikely.
Spy plane recon and satellites may give the earliest warning of an impending attack. The South had info before the last one, but ignored it.

If one thing is predictable about the North's behavior, it's that it's nearly impossible to predict with any accuracy.
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Post by Trolldor » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:51 am

Well, it was unpredictable under Kim.

It may be a little different under the new guy, unless you know something we don't.
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The Mad Hatter wrote:Well, it was unpredictable under Kim.

It may be a little different under the new guy, unless you know something we don't.
Not really. Just don't see any reason to expect much to change. His grandad taught his dad who taught him. Tyranny in the family. He'll inherit the same military regime, which, if what the highest-ranking defector said is true, is determined to reunite by force.
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Post by JimC » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:11 am

FBM wrote:
The Mad Hatter wrote:Well, it was unpredictable under Kim.

It may be a little different under the new guy, unless you know something we don't.
Not really. Just don't see any reason to expect much to change. His grandad taught his dad who taught him. Tyranny in the family. He'll inherit the same military regime, which, if what the highest-ranking defector said is true, is determined to reunite by force.
If that is true, they are living in cloud-cuckoo land, surely...
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Post by FBM » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:13 am

Maybe it was just the hardline faction of the military. Surely they can't all be that deluded, eh? :think:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:51 pm

Ian wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Ian wrote:There are a handful of real indicators to tell if they're serious about attacking, but they're also good and denial & deception (D&D) techniques. IMO, if and when the big attack finally comes, it'll be preceded by a "routine" crisis and military standup. The Yom Kippur War was preceded by yet another (of many) Egyptian army exercises, with the Israelis telling themselves that an attack was, again, unlikely.

My guess is that there won't be much more for the time being, after the new ROK defense minister said that if Long Dong Il attacks again, they will do something to the effect of "bomb them into submission." I like that dude's style. Clarity and certainty are good qualities.
"Ian understands politics better than I do."
Yeah... by the way Coito, it's been more than a month since the midterm elections. Feel free to take that off your signature!
I recall I didn't put it up there immediately. I wanted to give you your full month. A bet is a bet.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:53 pm

FBM wrote:
Ian wrote:There are a handful of real indicators to tell if they're serious about attacking, but they're also good and denial & deception (D&D) techniques. IMO, if and when the big attack finally comes, it'll be preceded by a "routine" crisis and military standup. The Yom Kippur War was preceded by yet another (of many) Egyptian army exercises, with the Israelis telling themselves that an attack was, again, unlikely.
Spy plane recon and satellites may give the earliest warning of an impending attack. The South had info before the last one, but ignored it.

If one thing is predictable about the North's behavior, it's that it's nearly impossible to predict with any accuracy.
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