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[pErvinalia]

My fucking God. Talk about tl;dr. I stopped reading where you started confusing the value of learning the roots of English words with specifically learning Latin.

[pErvinalia]

The rest of your stuff is just yet another iteration of your "what's wrong with the youth of today" hobby horse.

[Animavore]

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[pErvinalia]

Oh, quick question, pErvin -

You accused me of opposing gender studies and the like because of ideology. What ideology is that? Please specify which ideology you believe underpins or is advanced by gender studies.

Also, you'll note that I also included studies like "communications" in the less valuable group. Is it ideology that I'm opposing there, too?

Do tell.

You yourself have specifically mentioned what aspects of what the courses allegedly teach that cause you conniptions. You don't need to ask me, just go back and read your own posts.

And the set of things you don't like isn't equivalent to the set of things you don't like because of ideological reasons. Perhaps if you learnt more set theory and less archaic languages you might understand.

[pErvinalia]

A large and growing part of universities today. As stated, by way of example, on the University of Cincinnati website - "Womens, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS) is one of the fastest growing academic fields in the country.

I really don't think you get how stats works. Growing fast from a miniscule base isn't equivalent to being widespread (or not niche, as Jim was pointing out).

Go fuck off. He was asking about "significance."

Number 1. Nothing in my argument had anything to do with how "significant" or "insignificant" specific courses or subjects or disciplines are. My discussion related to their value as part of a good education. JimC asked how insignificant they were.

Number 2. I never said they were or were not widespread. I'll leave it to you to make that argument and present that stats, if you're taking a position on that. I don't really care how widespread they are. I do see pretty much every university has a gender studies or women's studies program, and they also have a communications program and the like. So what?

I'm not sure what any of that has to do with their relative value as disciplines. Astrophysics is taken by only a small percentage of college students, but it's of tremendous educational value, for example.

What makes a discipline significant to you? What makes it widespread? Let's start there. Then we can discuss whether one or more disciplines meet that definition for you. To me, it's not relevant to the discussion, but if it's relevant to you, I'm happy to discuss it.

Oh yes, let's equivocate over simple words so you can spend 10 pages trying to argue that black is white.

[pErvinalia]

That being said, it's disconcerting to see the reduction in ability of high school students to pass the SAT (a college aptitude test in the US). Average scores are dropping and are now in the low to mid 500s, when the lowest you can get is 400 and the highest 1600.

That's what happens when you cut education funding and don't pay teachers enough.

Subjective opinion!

That's an interesting hypothesis. Do you have any evidence of that?

When was education funding cut, by how much, and what are the numbers on teacher pay? How much should they be paid such that they would better educate the students?

I wait anxiously for your wisdom and for you to support your argument/assertion.

Why would I? You'll just ignore it as inconvenient to your sheltered world view. Before asking new questions of others, how about you first address the host of previous replies from others that have gone unaddressed by you?

[pErvinalia]

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Yep, that's basically him.

[pErvinalia]

A large and growing part of universities today. As stated, by way of example, on the University of Cincinnati website - "Womens, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS) is one of the fastest growing academic fields in the country.

I really don't think you get how stats works. Growing fast from a miniscule base isn't equivalent to being widespread (or not niche, as Jim was pointing out).

Go fuck off. He was asking about "significance."

Number 1. Nothing in my argument had anything to do with how "significant" or "insignificant" specific courses or subjects or disciplines are. My discussion related to their value as part of a good education. JimC asked how insignificant they were.

Number 2. I never said they were or were not widespread. I'll leave it to you to make that argument and present that stats, if you're taking a position on that. I don't really care how widespread they are. I do see pretty much every university has a gender studies or women's studies program, and they also have a communications program and the like. So what?

I'm not sure what any of that has to do with their relative value as disciplines. Astrophysics is taken by only a small percentage of college students, but it's of tremendous educational value, for example.

What makes a discipline significant to you? What makes it widespread? Let's start there. Then we can discuss whether one or more disciplines meet that definition for you. To me, it's not relevant to the discussion, but if it's relevant to you, I'm happy to discuss it.

You have an inherent drive to be dishonest, don't you? Here's what Jim said, and this is directly what you responded to with your numpty point about those "studies" courses being among the fastest growing academic fields.

..do such courses represent a major part of universities today, or are they a minor side-show whose significance is exaggerated because the weird shit they often come up with is so bizarre it is newsworthy?

The point you are either too stupid to get, or more likely too dishonest to admit, is that it's not a major part of universities today, and positing a retarded statistical "analysis" as proof that they are significant is, well, retarded.

[DaveDodo007]

Pew: Most Republicans View Higher Education as Bad for America
Comparatively, 72 percent of Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents say higher education has a positive impact on the country. Fifty-five percent of the general population was also found to think positively of higher education.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/pew-most-r ... or-america
Education: the enemy of Jesus

Yay lets indoctrinate young people in a failed ideology. Communism, shit that didn't work, Socialism, shit that didn't work. Cultural Marxism, shit that didn't work. It must be people who are wrong as it can't be we are a bunch of pinko commie faggots who haven't got a clue about economics and human nature.

[pErvinalia]

Higher education = communism??

[pErvinalia]

FortyTwo from the 1800's

[Hermit]

FortyTwo from the 1800's

Yabbut in 1912 pupiis were expected to give the capitals of States touching the Ohio River!

Don't laugh. This is important!

[Tero]

The buzarro/libertarian GOP

Kasich either fixing or leaving GOP:
"If the party can't be fixed, Jake, then I'm not going to be able to support the party. Period. That's the end of it." Kasich said in an interview with anchor Jake Tapper.

Asked what that meant for his future in the GOP, Kasich said he was committed to the party and intended to win it over from the surging nationalist wing.

[Svartalf]

What's he gonna do? register as a democrat?

[Sean Hayden]

-win it over? it's what they've been since I've been alive.

Maybe it just got too real?