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:coffee: That's better.
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Bella Fortuna wrote::coffee: That's better.
Another scoldin' oldie. :nono:
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Re: Osama bin Laden: Dead

Post by epepke » Mon May 02, 2011 6:01 pm

maiforpeace wrote:As for the moronic flag wavers. They embarrass themselves, I can only feel pity for them. They are hateful idiots, and are deserving of disdain...they are the same people who promulgated the fear of terrorism after 9/11, they supported their president to use it as an excuse to invade Iraq, and now they stupidly claim it's the end of terrorism.
The "moronic flag wavers" that were outside the White House gates were mostly of a particular age group. This is the age group that were in middle school during 9/11, and therefore would have been the group most traumatized by 9/11. One of them even pointed this out to reporters after my lover and I had figured it out. These people are responding to a personal event, seeing bookmarks that define a particular chapter.

You can hold them in contempt and not understand them, and you probably will. However, these people are just now having to deal with their own finances in a seriously depressed economy, and they're just now going to college. They are going to do things over the next 20 years. At best, it might turn out to be a complete overturn of the old categories: sociopathic, greedy right-wingers and lickspittle, whiny left-wingerss. They're also kind of used to being ignored.

It should be fun to watch.

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Post by Rob » Mon May 02, 2011 6:04 pm

How does their age group factor into them being idiots?
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Re: Osama bin Laden: Dead

Post by Ian » Mon May 02, 2011 6:11 pm

The age of the people who gathered around the White House last night mostly has to do with what different kinds of people are prepared to do after 11pm on a Sunday night. Of course they were mostly college students. They're young, stay up late anyway, and there are several large colleges within a ten-minute Metro ride from the White House (Georgetown, GW, etc.). Most everyone else who wasn't already asleep was, like me, watching the news and heading to bed because we had to work the next day. And/or living in the suburbs miles away.

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Post by Twoflower » Mon May 02, 2011 6:14 pm

epepke wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:As for the moronic flag wavers. They embarrass themselves, I can only feel pity for them. They are hateful idiots, and are deserving of disdain...they are the same people who promulgated the fear of terrorism after 9/11, they supported their president to use it as an excuse to invade Iraq, and now they stupidly claim it's the end of terrorism.
The "moronic flag wavers" that were outside the White House gates were mostly of a particular age group. This is the age group that were in middle school during 9/11, and therefore would have been the group most traumatized by 9/11. One of them even pointed this out to reporters after my lover and I had figured it out. These people are responding to a personal event, seeing bookmarks that define a particular chapter.

You can hold them in contempt and not understand them, and you probably will. However, these people are just now having to deal with their own finances in a seriously depressed economy, and they're just now going to college. They are going to do things over the next 20 years. At best, it might turn out to be a complete overturn of the old categories: sociopathic, greedy right-wingers and lickspittle, whiny left-wingerss. They're also kind of used to being ignored.

It should be fun to watch.

My friends and I are also in that age group and we are all embarrassed when we see the flag wavers.
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Re: Osama bin Laden: Dead

Post by epepke » Mon May 02, 2011 6:19 pm

Rob wrote:How does their age group factor into them being idiots?
See this quote:
they are the same people who promulgated the fear of terrorism after 9/11
They could hardly have done this when they were 12. I suspect this is not comprehensible to you.

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Post by epepke » Mon May 02, 2011 6:21 pm

Twoflower wrote:My friends and I are also in that age group and we are all embarrassed when we see the flag wavers.
That's another datum. In the 60s, there were the hippies, and there were also the ultra-militaristic. That led to a lot of interesting conflicts, which led to some interesting history. Dismiss what I say if you like, but I'm going to enjoy watching the sparks.

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Post by Twoflower » Mon May 02, 2011 6:26 pm

epepke wrote:
Twoflower wrote:My friends and I are also in that age group and we are all embarrassed when we see the flag wavers.
That's another datum. In the 60s, there were the hippies, and there were also the ultra-militaristic. That led to a lot of interesting conflicts, which led to some interesting history. Dismiss what I say if you like, but I'm going to enjoy watching the sparks.
One of my friend is ex-marine, a few others are very patriotic. We aren't hippies or ultra-militaristic, we're just students who think some Americans take things a little too far when celebrating.
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And dragged away and thrown away
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It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
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Re: Osama bin Laden: Dead

Post by Warren Dew » Mon May 02, 2011 6:33 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:I'm more interested in how this will affect our policies about the three wars we are in, and Gitmo.
Rationally, it should have little to no effect.
Rationally, do we have a reason for being in Afghanistan other than bin Laden?

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon May 02, 2011 6:35 pm

Warren Dew wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:I'm more interested in how this will affect our policies about the three wars we are in, and Gitmo.
Rationally, it should have little to no effect.
Rationally, do we have a reason for being in Afghanistan other than bin Laden?
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Re: Osama bin Laden: Dead

Post by Twoflower » Mon May 02, 2011 6:38 pm

People are now posting osama death videos on facebook.
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon May 02, 2011 6:41 pm

Twoflower wrote:People are now posting osama death videos on facebook.
That's pretty accurate compared with them appearing on youtube. :smoke:
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Re: Osama bin Laden: Dead

Post by epepke » Mon May 02, 2011 6:43 pm

Twoflower wrote:One of my friend is ex-marine, a few others are very patriotic. We aren't hippies or ultra-militaristic, we're just students who think some Americans take things a little too far when celebrating.
Since I already said that I think that generation will not use the old categories, telling me that you're not in the old categories by means of a rejoinder misses my point by several parsecs. That's OK; it's what makes new generations exciting.

Let's talk again in ten years, when new categories have been established. Then you might understand where my guesses come from.

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