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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:44 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
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Scot Dutchy wrote:Even Sanders would find himself on the right in most NESD countries.
Bullshit.
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pErvinalia wrote:
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Scot Dutchy wrote:Even Sanders would find himself on the right in most NESD countries.
Bullshit.
He would be regarded as centre-left.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:27 pm

JimC wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:55 pm
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Scot Dutchy wrote:Even Sanders would find himself on the right in most NESD countries.
Bullshit.
He would be regarded as centre-left.
Where? Not in Europe. You just dont realise how right wing your political parties have become. Look at your immigrant policy.What about mining. JFCOAPS. You are destroying the country for the Chinese.
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Post by JimC » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:47 pm

You do realise we are talking about Bernie Sanders, from the left side of the US Democratic Party, not Australian political parties?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:35 am

JimC wrote:
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You do realise we are talking about Bernie Sanders, from the left side of the US Democratic Party, not Australian political parties?
A party that would be considered right wing in Europe.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:59 am

His tax policy is well to the left of current Dutch tax policies. So is his healthcare plan. It's clear you have no idea what Sanders advocates.
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Post by JimC » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:10 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:35 am
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You do realise we are talking about Bernie Sanders, from the left side of the US Democratic Party, not Australian political parties?
A party that would be considered right wing in Europe.
The Democrats in the US are a broad church these days. The mainstream are centrist at the most, I suppose, but Sanders and his younger supporters are outliers, and definitely to the left of centre in a universal sense...
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Post by macdoc » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:09 am

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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:11 am

That can't be right. Dutchy told us that governments are inflating numbers to control their populations.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:35 am

JimC wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:10 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:35 am
JimC wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:47 pm
You do realise we are talking about Bernie Sanders, from the left side of the US Democratic Party, not Australian political parties?
A party that would be considered right wing in Europe.
The Democrats in the US are a broad church these days. The mainstream are centrist at the most, I suppose, but Sanders and his younger supporters are outliers, and definitely to the left of centre in a universal sense...
We are talking about the United States of America where the 1% on the universal political spectrum are slightly right of Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun with the rest of the Repugs drifting left of them. Sanders would be at best in this country right of centre. :smoke:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:01 am

Again, rubbish. His health and taxation policies are to the left of the Netherregions.
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Post by Hermit » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:46 am

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Again, rubbish. His health and taxation policies are to the left of the Netherregions.
His positions on political, economic and social issues make him a died-in-the-wool social democrat. They are certainly to the left of the two largest partners in the Dutch current coalition government, the conservative VVD (People's Party for Freedom and Democracy), and the second largest, the centrist CDA (Christian Democratic Appeal) which won 21.3% and 12.4% respectively of the popular vote in the most recent general election 2017.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:59 am

Yep. Although, Dutch social democrats are the best social democrats.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:06 pm

Hermit wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:46 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:01 am
Again, rubbish. His health and taxation policies are to the left of the Netherregions.
His positions on political, economic and social issues make him a died-in-the-wool social democrat. They are certainly to the left of the two largest partners in the Dutch current coalition government, the conservative VVD (People's Party for Freedom and Democracy), and the second largest, the centrist CDA (Christian Democratic Appeal) which won 21.3% and 12.4% respectively of the popular vote in the most recent general election 2017.
Sorry the VVD under Rutte have moved to the centre Sanders would be right of Rutte but what do I know I only live here. :biggrin:
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Post by JimC » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:54 pm

No one is denying that, in general, the average tenor of US politics is to the right of the average tenor in most European countries. It's just that you've picked an American outlier in the form of Bernie Sanders. Your argument would have more legs if you were referring to Biden...
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