Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

[Scot Dutchy]

This is not a divorce in a marital sense. It is a divorce with a fixed date. If the UK wants an extension it has to apply to the Council of Ministers and get approval from all 27. That would be a huge feat. I think Spain would apply great pressure over Gibraltar and she would receive support as well.
A second referendum would not solve anything. Remember the tories are worried about their millions falling into EU hands as tax payments. The country can go to the dogs as far as they are concerned.
Yep in three months its bye bye day. What a lot seem to forget is that someone has to pay for the rubbish created by this botched deal.

[Rum]

If the UK did apply for an extension it would be agreed immediately and without much hesitation. It is in no country’s economic interest to have an exit with too many unresolved loose ends.

[Scot Dutchy]

Brits abroad are going to have to watch out regarding health insurance:

British expats set to lose healthcare under no-deal Brexit, government confirms

Health system guidance spells out risk of 'limitations' accessing treatment overseas from 29 March, although EU citizens in the UK have had rights guaranteed

[Scot Dutchy]

It would not. Dont you think a lot of people this side of the Channel and in the RoI have not had enough of the UK's carry on and all the extra expense involved? Who going to pay for that?
You really think this will be allowed to be continued for another two years? No way hozee.

[Rum]

It would not. Dont you think a lot of people this side of the Channel and in the RoI have not had enough of the UK's carry on and all the extra expense involved? Who going to pay for that?
You really think this will be allowed to be continued for another two years? No way hozee.

You think these things through with hatred for Britain filtering your common sense. Your reactions are therefore emotional, illogical and rather warped.

I on the other hand, voted remain, as you appear to need reminding regularly, I have no axe to grind and I look at the issue rather more objectively.

As does the commission. They don’t think in terms of ‘having enough’, or ‘carry on’, just in terms of the economic bottom line, which is a central pillar of the EU after all.

Brexit was a terrible decision I’m sure of that. But one can still look at the next stages with a degree f rationalism.

[Rum]

We need an emoticon of SD rubbing his hands with glee.

[Scot Dutchy]

Why?

[Scot Dutchy]

It would not. Dont you think a lot of people this side of the Channel and in the RoI have not had enough of the UK's carry on and all the extra expense involved? Who going to pay for that?
You really think this will be allowed to be continued for another two years? No way hozee.

You think these things through with hatred for Britain filtering your common sense. Your reactions are therefore emotional, illogical and rather warped.

Will you stop this nonsense and just think. The EU has bent backwards in accommodating the UK.

I on the other hand, voted remain, as you appear to need reminding regularly, I have no axe to grind and I look at the issue rather more objectively.

I dont either. I look at this situation from not an arrogant UK one. Objectively it serves no purpose at all to extend anything.

As does the commission. They don’t think in terms of ‘having enough’, or ‘carry on’, just in terms of the economic bottom line, which is a central pillar of the EU after all.

Brexit was a terrible decision I’m sure of that. But one can still look at the next stages with a degree f rationalism.

All the preparations have been made for a no-deal exit. Any extension will just cost more economically.

[Scot Dutchy]

It is not looking well. Depending on a first class nutter is risky and not wise.

Outside the EU, Britain faces a bleak future in Trump’s world

The US president is rewriting the international rule book that the UK will rely on to survive if it goes it alone

[Rum]

Why?

Because you give every appearance in taking great joy in the fact that the UK has made a massive and damaging blunder.

[Scot Dutchy]

Why?

Because you give every appearance in taking great joy in the fact that the UK has made a massive and damaging blunder.

No I am not. You know what really gets up my nose with the UK is ARROGANCE!!!

They expected a cherry picking exercise with the EU giving in to every demand. May thought she was Maggie 2 but she has found out the hard way she is not. Barnier she discovered was not a Jacques Delors. In fact she found the whole 27 are against her. They have offered the best deal. The shop steward would have not got anything better.
So many members have invested a lot of money in preparing for a no-deal. The separation will happen on time under the present circumstances.

[Rum]

How do you translate the behaviour of a government carrying out the democratic decision of its people and trying to find a deal in its own self interests (which is the duty of every government as things stand) into a personalised criticism of a whole nation? When you say the UK is arrogant who are you referring to? The 48% who voted remain? Me? Mrs May, who is so ‘arrogant’ she has to steer an almost impossible paththrough a minefield of overlapping and often mutually exclusive demands? Perhaps you mean the poor, who in their ignorant ‘arrogance’ might as well have been turkeys voting for Christmas at the referendum.

Who or what exactly would you pin your ‘arrogance’ label on? Or is this another case of your emotional reaction to your life being so shit when you lived here that you just love to hate it?

[Scot Dutchy]

The arrogance of the Brexiteers and their so called "negotiators". Do I have to repeat the massive lies they put out?
Like: "The world will be flocking to make FTA's with us".
"350 million a week for NHS".
"Doing all the financial services for the EU".
"They need us more than we need them".
"Having our cake and eat it".

That is off the top of my head. Never mind the arrogance shown by Messrs Fox and Davis showed during the so-called negotiations. Not even turning up when they did turn up they were unprepared and just expecting to cherry pick. The various attempts of May to open up bi-lateral talks with Merkel when she was repeatedly told all negotiations go through Barnier and his brilliant political colleague Sabine Weyand whose mind was the controlling feature of the negotiations.

The arrogant way the Brexiteers always thought they had control of the negotiations even when they issued the Art 50 letter. "Art 50 does not fully apply to us".

The EU bent over backwards to give May her deal almost 400 pages of it and what is the arrogant reply from Brexiteers? "We dont need a deal" and "no deal is better than May's deal".

If you think an extension would be given without any severe conditions you are completely underestimating the anger of the EU negotiators and the feeling in the 27 remaining countries. This country is one to lose the most but the mood now is we will find trustworthy partners to business than do business with a very untrustworthy one. Our preparations for no-deal are complete. We are ready are you?

[Scot Dutchy]

BTW that was about as democratic as the Potus elections in America.

[rainbow]

All the preparations have been made for a no-deal exit. Any extension will just cost more economically.

I beg to differ.

A no deal, will cost everyone a lot more than a new referendum.