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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by JimC » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:52 am

Hillary will probably continue a US tradition of using US military power in situations that may or may not warrant it, but it is a bit rich for Republicans to castigate her; if she does so, it is merely in the Bush tradition...
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Tyrannical » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:16 am

Worse than Bush. Out of the frying pan into the fire......

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:47 am

You guys loved it when Bush was doing it.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:26 pm

JimC wrote:Hillary will probably continue a US tradition of using US military power in situations that may or may not warrant it, but it is a bit rich for Republicans to castigate her; if she does so, it is merely in the Bush tradition...
Isn't the Bush tradition a tradition that should stop?
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:29 pm

eRvin wrote:You guys loved it when Bush was doing it.
Assuming without admitting that premise -- so?
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:32 pm

So they are being hypocritical
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:33 pm

eRvin wrote:Hillary is part of the problem not the solution. But at least she's an adult and predictable.
Well, she is part of the problem, and what's predictable is that she'll continue to exacerbate the problem.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:35 pm

eRvin wrote:So they are being hypocritical
Perhaps, or they've changed their minds. Or, they didn't support Bush's positions in the first place.

And, their hypocrisy doesn't mean people should support the same Bush policies now when they are advanced by Hillary Clinton.

Indeed, she is a neocon war-hawk. You want another Libya somewhere? Vote Clinton. You want someone who supported the Iraq War -- Hillary. You want more bombings and drone strikes -- Hillary. She's "tough" - just listen to her own words, she'll tell you.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:37 pm

Sounds like the perfect Republican.
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:41 pm

That's a good reason not to vote for her. Donald doesn't sound much like a Republican, which is a really good reason to vote for him.
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Post by Animavore » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:44 pm

That's literally the most backward logic ever. :lol:
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:47 pm

Forty Two wrote:That's a good reason not to vote for her. Donald doesn't sound much like a Republican, which is a really good reason to vote for him.
Unless one is a Republican
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Animavore » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:48 pm

A vote for Trump is a vote for the Republican party. FFS. You're not voting for a dictator.

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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:03 pm

Animavore wrote:That's literally the most backward logic ever. :lol:
Why? If you oppose neocon Republicans, then you should vote for the candidate which least embodies neocon Republicanism. That would be Donald Trump.

One of the things they say about Trump is that he's destroying the GOP -- and that the sane candidates, like Cruz and Santorum and Jeb Bush and the rest of the usual crowd -- are forced out --- I say that's a great thing he's doing. The GOP has needed a good shakeup, and he's succeeding in kicking the religious right lunatics off the stage. At the GOP convention we didn't have to endure any Huckabee sermons, and no diatribes against abortion, and no "culture war" blathering on about the oppression of Christians in our Christian Nation - nope -- we got a gay Republican standing up and declaring his pride in being gay and getting a standing ovation.

If that's not a good thing, then what is?

On the Democrat side, we have the DNC lying to the American people and claiming to be "neutral" as their rules require, and then emails get released showing a concerted effort by party insiders to thwart the candidacy of Bernie Sanders -- they announced a desire to challenge his religion or lack thereof, to see if they could dub him an "atheist" because the "peeps" in the Democrat south would draw a distinction between "a Jew and an atheist." LOL. And, they are supporting the moneyed candidate, bought and paid for by Wall Street hedge funders, banks and financiers, who is a war hawk who supported every military endeavor since Vietnam, and who supports one sided tariff-less trade deals which suck millions of US jobs out of the country.....and who lies over and over again about her use of a private email server (she wasn't indicted, but the FBI chief confirmed that Hillary lied over an over again).
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Re: The Donald-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:05 pm

eRvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:That's a good reason not to vote for her. Donald doesn't sound much like a Republican, which is a really good reason to vote for him.
Unless one is a Republican
Sure, that's why some Republicans of the establishment ilk have made noise about supporting Hillary. She's more Republican than Trump.
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