Do Governments Represent Their People?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Somebody with a pathological hatred of human beings will never understand the difference.

Is that really necessary?

It is accurate, no?

I don't think it's at all accurate to describe Gawd as having "a pathological hatred of human beings".

As one of the people whom he would like to see dead I have to disagree.

[Robert_S]

Hatred? maybe, but i don't see that as necessarily being Gawd's primary motivator. But then, I can't say anything really about Gawd except his political views.

I have no idea about his musical or aesthetic tastes. I've no idea what he wants to replace US/Israeli corporate capitalism. I've no idea his views on cheese, bacon custard or celery. Does he like action films or chick flicks? I should at least like to hear from him that there's more to him than his politics even if he never shares the details with us.

[Coito ergo sum]

I've posted in favor of the downfall of the US & Israel.

Yes, but that is still pro-anti-US/Israel.

Essentially, it's a position against something.

The negative of a negative is a positive. Or if you prefer, I'm against American & Israeli systematic war mongering & apartheid. That's a positive expression.

Words ought to mean things, and not be flung about where they don't belong.

Apartheid: any system or practice that separates people according to race, caste, etc.

That's not the US practice, and neither is it the Israeli practice. 20% of Israel is Arab-Muslim, and they are not segregated or separated at all.

And, to suggest that the US and Israel mongers wars is ridiculous. Israel hasn't participated in wars, except against those who attack it, and the odd bombing of a nuclear facility in Iraq. The US isn't mongering any wars - the Afghan conflict was brought on by a direct attack on the US from Al Qaeta who was harbored there. Even if one disagrees with the Iraq War, it's one war, certainly not to be in and of itself considered "mongering." Plenty of other wars have been started all around the world in the last 10-20 years, and not by the United States.

[Ian]

Somebody with a pathological hatred of human beings will never understand the difference.

Is that really necessary?

It is accurate, no?

I don't think it's at all accurate to describe Gawd as having "a pathological hatred of human beings".

As one of the people whom he would like to see dead I have to disagree.

Ditto.
I call it as I see it, and I think he's a borderline sociopath at least. Politics is merely his excuse for focusing the hatred he has onto specific groups of people.

Gawd calls it as he sees it. All Israelis and Americans -regardless of their ideology, gender, class, race, age, education or musical preferences- deserve to be hated and attacked because of the country in which they live. If he read in the news that some lunatic blew himself and fifty other people up on a street in downtown Washington, he'd praise the guy as a freedom fighter, nevermind if my wife and kids, or anyone else's, were walking past the bomber when it happened. He's got his cherished list of people he hates (and posts about nothing else), grouped together by nationalism above all other factors, or perhaps by no other factors at all. And if people in those countries suffer or die, then they've earned it; their government is a reflection of them, after all.

Psychologically, he should seek help. Politically, he ought to go back to 1914 where he belongs.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

He is all inclusive, hating people who are beaten down by the system simply because they're Americans. Helpless, hopeless Americans, but because they're Americans, and for no other reason, they should be killed. This is not the attitude of a healthy mind.

[Warren Dew]

Apartheid: any system or practice that separates people according to race, caste, etc.

That's not the US practice, and neither is it the Israeli practice. 20% of Israel is Arab-Muslim, and they are not segregated or separated at all.

No system of apartheid is perfect. The U.S. system of Indian reservations qualifies as apartheid, as does the Israeli treatment of most of the west bank territories.

[Seth]

Apartheid: any system or practice that separates people according to race, caste, etc.

That's not the US practice, and neither is it the Israeli practice. 20% of Israel is Arab-Muslim, and they are not segregated or separated at all.

No system of apartheid is perfect. The U.S. system of Indian reservations qualifies as apartheid, as does the Israeli treatment of most of the west bank territories.

Indeed. And I'm all for ending that apartheid in America. Repudiate all treaties, turn over all reservation lands to the tribes and dismantle the BIA, eliminate all notions of "domestic dependent nation" sovereign status, pay off the debt we owe them over "management" of their natural resources (which is being done as we speak) and remove all "sovereign status" perks they enjoy on their reservations and subject them to all of the same laws and regulations that every other American citizen enjoys and stop treating them like children.