Strange bedfellows

[JimC]

I think there is a core of a particular emotion in both jihadists and fascists. The need to believe in something that ties them as a tribe with strong emotions, often involve a love for a leader or a great man from the past or a god, intertwined with hatred and contempt for the "other".

In both cases, the other includes the jews, but also each other, making something like a common plan to blow up a synagogue somewhat dicey...

[Seabass]

People who are susceptible to one form of collective narcissism will tend to be susceptible to other forms of collective narcissism. Religion, racism, sexism, homophobia, nationalism tend to go hand in hand with one another. If you are convinced that the group that you identify with is better than all the other groups, you will be inclined to find other ways to distinguish your group from other inferior ones.

[Joe]

Nazis were supernaturalists first and foremost. Why people are always arguing about their politics. It didn't exactly make sense, and behind the scenes it was chaos.

Supernaturalists or supernationalists? The Nazi's aren't a big focus for me, but the little I've read made me think it was the latter.

[Seabass]

Nazis were supernaturalists first and foremost. Why people are always arguing about their politics. It didn't exactly make sense, and behind the scenes it was chaos.

Supernaturalists or supernationalists? The Nazi's aren't a big focus for me, but the little I've read made me think it was the latter.

Maybe they liked to hang out at the beach super naked...

[JimC]

Amongst the hatred and iron-fisted racially based nationalism of the nazis was always a weird strand of emotion, superstition and irrational beliefs...

[Joe]

Nazis were supernaturalists first and foremost. Why people are always arguing about their politics. It didn't exactly make sense, and behind the scenes it was chaos.

Supernaturalists or supernationalists? The Nazi's aren't a big focus for me, but the little I've read made me think it was the latter.

Maybe they liked to hang out at the beach super naked...

[Hermit]

Isis is fundamentally theocratic. Trump supporters are fundamentally racist..

Trumpers are fundamentally theocratic, too. American Christianity and white supremacy have been intertwined and inseparable for centuries.

Yes, American Christianity and white supremacy have been intertwined for centuries. But that Christianity is a tool to justify racism. Isis, on the other hand, is fundamentally theocratic. Its explicit aim is to form governments run according to al-Qurʼān, ḥadīth and Sharia.

While Americans who want a theocratic form of government would have been historically almost exclusively supporters of the Republican Party, I have yet to be convinced that a majority of Trumpers want a theocratic form of government. A survey conducted by Pew Research in April 2020 asked: "When Bible and the will of people conflict, which should have more influence on U.S. laws?", 41% of Republicans and Republican leaners picked the Bible (as did 16% of Democrats and Democrat leaners and 50% of Black Protestants).

[laklak]

There's a certain interchangeability between the diverse species of fanatics.

[aufbahrung]

Rationally you should never cross them beams, in practice people cross them beams all the time

[laklak]

That they do. But hey, keeps life interesting, innit?