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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:37 am

Seabass wrote:What the hell is that? Is that real? Did any previous presidents have puff pieces written about themselves while in office?
Neither has Trump. Check the author of the article. Also, its first sentence.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Seabass » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:06 am

Hermit wrote:
Seabass wrote:What the hell is that? Is that real? Did any previous presidents have puff pieces written about themselves while in office?
Neither has Trump. Check the author of the article. Also, its first sentence.
I seriously doubt that he's the one who actually wrote it.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:22 am

Seabass wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Seabass wrote:What the hell is that? Is that real? Did any previous presidents have puff pieces written about themselves while in office?
Neither has Trump. Check the author of the article. Also, its first sentence.
I seriously doubt that he's the one who actually wrote it.
So he commissioined a ghostwriter. "Here's five grand, buddy." There'd be plenty of takers for half that amount - or a twentieth.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Seabass » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:46 am

Hermit wrote:
Seabass wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Seabass wrote:What the hell is that? Is that real? Did any previous presidents have puff pieces written about themselves while in office?
Neither has Trump. Check the author of the article. Also, its first sentence.
I seriously doubt that he's the one who actually wrote it.
So he commissioined a ghostwriter. "Here's five grand, buddy." There'd be plenty of takers for half that amount - or a twentieth.
Yes. In any case, my point was that I don't think that sort of thing is normal. I don't recall Obama, Bush, or Clinton ever writing articles about how great their own presidencies were.
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Seabass wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Seabass wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Seabass wrote:What the hell is that? Is that real? Did any previous presidents have puff pieces written about themselves while in office?
Neither has Trump. Check the author of the article. Also, its first sentence.
I seriously doubt that he's the one who actually wrote it.
So he commissioined a ghostwriter. "Here's five grand, buddy." There'd be plenty of takers for half that amount - or a twentieth.
Yes. In any case, my point was that I don't think that sort of thing is normal.
It's not normal any time a populist demagogue is at the helm of a nation. There'll be more of this to come, especially once Dear Leader knobbles "The enemy of the American People", i.e. the list of media outlets he described as such enemies in one of his tweets - @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN - and installs hand-picked acolytes in the remainder.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:04 pm

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:34 pm

Tero wrote:His continuing struggles. Continued from closed thread.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-su ... d=52501017
He's been saying that for ages. It gets downplayed, but he has consistently said that the people who were brought here by others as children, who have no culpability of their own, ought to be helped.

His position is really quite clear - he's not going to get suckered by the Democrats like has happened in the past. The Democrats demand amnesty or some other accommodation, and will only agree to work on security and immigration reform later. Then later never comes.

Trump being willing to do a deal is reasonable, and his unwillingness to give the Democrats what they want without getting something he wants in return is smart.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Tero » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:13 pm

Fucking Trump is pleased with the fucking Democrats of Shithole Republic of USA
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics ... index.html

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:02 am

Tero wrote:Fucking Trump is pleased with the fucking Democrats of Shithole Republic of USA
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics ... index.html
The New York Times changed a headline in an article Saturday morning about the government shutdown that absolves Democrats of blame for the impasse.

The original version of the NYT headline on an article reporting the news reads: “Senate Democrat Block Bill to Keep Government Open Past Midnight, Shutdown Looms.” The story went through various changes as negotiations on the budget deal broke down.

But a final version of the headline was published at 12:01 am and appears to dramatically downplay Democrats’ responsibility in the matter, according to an analysis The Daily Caller News Foundation conducted using NewsDiffs, a website that tracks changes made to high-performing articles.

The final version of the headline states: “Government Shuts Down as Bill to Extend Funding Is Blocked.” TheNYT altered the original article substantially as well. Editors nixed a sentence, for instance, noting that, “Senate Democrats blocked passage of a stopgap spending bill to keep the government open.”
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/20/new-y ... -headline/

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Post by Tero » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:08 am

Irrelevant Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics ... index.html

President influenced most by the last person he played golf with.

What explains that lurching between deal and no deal? The obvious answer is that Trump doesn't have a strong policy background on any issue other than trade. As a result, he is hugely persuadable -- usually by the last person who he talks to.

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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Seabass » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:16 am

Congrats, Forty Two. One less illegal to worry about. Making America great again, one deported doctor at a time.



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Send the criminals back to their own shitholes!!! :lay:
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:45 am

Tero wrote:Irrelevant Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics ... index.html

President influenced most by the last person he played golf with.

What explains that lurching between deal and no deal? The obvious answer is that Trump doesn't have a strong policy background on any issue other than trade. As a result, he is hugely persuadable -- usually by the last person who he talks to.
This is just your lack of familiarity with Trump. What explains his "lurching between deal or no deal?" It's his manner - tactic. The way he behaves is not some dope who doesn't know what he's doing. This is his way of doing things.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:48 am

Forty Two wrote:
Tero wrote:Irrelevant Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics ... index.html

President influenced most by the last person he played golf with.

What explains that lurching between deal and no deal? The obvious answer is that Trump doesn't have a strong policy background on any issue other than trade. As a result, he is hugely persuadable -- usually by the last person who he talks to.
This is just your lack of familiarity with Trump. What explains his "lurching between deal or no deal?" It's his manner - tactic.
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Re: Trump, the man with a dream of a Wall

Post by Forty Two » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:52 am

Seabass wrote:Congrats, Forty Two. One less illegal to worry about. Making America great again, one deported doctor at a time.
Well, first of all, why do you refer to me? I'm very pro-immigration, and some of Trump's statements on the topic I oppose. However, he has not changed the law, and this kind of thing happened before Trump took office, too. Do you need examples, or will you accept that that's accurate?

Now, in this particular case, he's very likely not going to be sent overseas. One, he's married to a US citizen, and can apply for US citizenship now by filing an N-400. The guy has a valid green card. The question becomes, why was a guy with a green card detained by ICE? Well, he came up in their system as having criminal convictions and an arrest for domestic violence. It's unlikely his convictions are going to ultimately cause him to lose his green card, unless there is something more serious in his record than the news reports show.

Congratulations, Seabass, for overreacting.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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