rEvolutionist wrote:I dunno about the healthcare aspect, but as a general principle most countries in the neoliberal west are running structural deficits (that is, tax receipts aren't enough to pay for government spending, because taxes have been slashed so much since the 80's), and need to increase taxes. I now await the fallacious arguments about "other people's money" and the "wealth creators will flee if we raise taxes", and that the answer is to slash more services to the poor and disadvantaged (while totally ignoring the monster elephant in the room - corporate welfare).

Um, there's a reason for "structural deficits" in tax receipts that you haven't been able to discern.
You might want to try to figure out why tax rates are being cut. Here's a clue: It has much to do with the inability of the economy and most productive class taxpayers to pay higher taxes and their resultant
democratic decision to elect representatives to their
democratic form of government who will cut taxes and quit misappropriating their labor and property and quit enslaving them to the demands of the dependent class.
You wanted democracy, well, you're getting it, good and hard. You can't have it both ways, you see. Either you accept the judgment of the collective or you insist on your individual rights, and we know full well that you don't give a fuck about anyone's individual rights other than your own, so the collective gets to tell you what you get.
So shut the fuck up and passively accept the judgment of the collective majority that you aren't worthy of their labor or money. Sucks to be you I guess.
I now await the fallacious argument that somehow "the rich" manage to "buy" the very secret-ballot votes that show that most people are charitable and willing to help, up to a point, but that when their ability to tolerate liberal theft to support the indolent of the dependent class (not the unable to work, the unwilling to work) they simply vote out the liberal twits who keep stealing their money in order to give it to somebody else. This is exactly what I said stems from natural behavior and its entirely predictable human behavior.
You see, most people aren't economic idiots like liberal twits who fallaciously think that "the rich" are taking something from "the poor," which is the typical socialist zero-sum canard that has no basis whatever in fact, and instead they understand that without "the rich" and their capital, and their business acumen that caused them to accumulate and then circulate that capital by creating businesses, products and jobs in the first place, there would be no businesses, no products and no jobs
for them. So, rather than rant and rave in fits of juvenile avaricious jealous liberalism against those who are better, smarter and more motivated that the liberal fuckwits who don't understand either human nature or economics, they welcome capitalism and free markets that give them the ability to work, earn and improve their economic situation. And, interestingly, when they succeed economically they are much, much more likely to be willing to part with some of their money to help the less fortunate and disabled.
It's a maxim of mathematics and economics that a society cannot simply tax its way to prosperity, and the fact that you cannot figure that out makes your comments unworthy of consideration.
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