What do you reckon about this, Seth?

[Kristie]

I'm confused, is it illegal to have your car windows down? Why is that even a law? Shouldn't it be the individuals choice if they want to roll down the windows?

This.



Around here, it's illegal to have them all the way up if, say, you were to leave your doggie in there when it's really hot out. Or if, say, you had to leave your small child in the car whilst you popped in to the pub for a few pints.

I live in a safe area, so I take my time when I go in for a drink.

[mistermack]

I thought that laws about parking on the wrong side of the road only applied after dark.

What the fuck does in matter in daylight?

[laklak]

Jeez MM, what are you, some sort of Libertarian? If everybody just parked wherever the fuck they wanted society would collapse and all the children would starve. That's a known fact.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Jeez MM, what are you, some sort of Libertarian? If everybody just parked wherever the fuck they wanted society would collapse and all the children would starve. That's a known fact.

Unless we all carry guns. Really big guns. Or perhaps gnus. Then it would all work out lovely.

[Warren Dew]

Let me guess. Auto insurance is regulated there?

[JimC]

Let me guess. Auto insurance is regulated there?

Only partly; third party insurance is compulsory, and paid for at the same time as you pay your car registration fee. I see that as reasonable; compulsory insurance of your own vehicle would not be.

Given that, I see no connection between insurance and the over-the-top Queensland policing.

We regard Queensland as our own "Deep North"; they do things differently there. There has recently been "anti-bikie" legislation passed by the conservative government there. While having no time for bikie gangs, who frequently make money from crime, this legislation is totally over the top...

Police have sounded a warning to members of interstate outlaw bikie gangs after charging five Victorian men under Queensland's new anti-association laws.
The five bikies, including one man believed to be a Hells Angels Sergeant at Arms, were arrested on the Gold Coast on Sunday morning.
Three are believed to be Hells Angels members from the outer Melbourne suburb of Dandenong, while two are alleged to be Comancheros members from the nearby suburb of Hallam.
All been charged under new anti-bikie laws and remain in custody awaiting appearances in Southport Magistrates Court on Monday.

Taskforce Maxima's Detective Inspector Brendan Smith said the arrests sent a strong message to gang members that Queensland legislation targets criminal associations regardless of where their home base might be.
“These actions send a clear message to interstate of members of criminal gangs – come to Queensland and commit offences and you will be arrested," he said.
“These actions clearly reflect the QPS on-going commitment to disrupting the criminal activities of these gangs, with the goal of driving them from Queensland.”
Inspector Smith said the quintet, aged between 23 and 31, had been the subject of police surveillance throughout the weekend.
Officers from Taskforce Maxima arrested them after conducting a search warrant on the men's accommodation.
Each have been charged with offences that fall under new legislation that aims to prevent criminal gang members congregating in groups in public places.
Taskforce Maxima was established by Queensland Police Service in October, as one of several new contingencies to eliminate criminal motorcycle gangs in Queensland.
It came in response to a violent brawl in Broadbeach in late September, in which 28 outlaw bikie members were arrested.

[Warren Dew]

I was thinking that if auto insurance rates - not just the requirement to have it - were regulated, then people might be required to keep their windows up to prevent theft so insurance rates could be kept down. I could totally see this happening in California.

[MrJonno]

I was thinking that if auto insurance rates - not just the requirement to have it - were regulated, then people might be required to keep their windows up to prevent theft so insurance rates could be kept down. I could totally see this happening in California.

Compulsory closed windows is a bit nanny state but then again so is jay walking, compulsory seatbelts/helmets etc. The rules for this vary between countries but its hardly the police state for society to make you take a few sensible precautions to avoid making a mess on the road or wasting police time dealing with stolen cars