China to keep Britain's lights on....

[mistermack]

Do interesting men create interesting times, or do interesting times create interesting men? An old philosophical question and not just a simplistic view of history
Anyways, you are still missing the point, the potential is already there in China. Imagine Nazi Germany before the start of WWII, say Hitler died of a heart attack in '39 before invading Poland but after Austria and German Czechoslovakia. The current government of China (Tibet and Mongolia) is not far off from pre-WWII Germany under national socialism. Be wary if someone charismatic like Mao arises in China.

I'm not missing the point. I'm saying it's a crap point. You think you can transfer pre-war German events to modern China.
Why? It simply doesn't follow that because something happened somewhere, the same thing will happen somewhere else.

Even if the situation was almost identical, that still doesn't mean the same thing will happen.

And what about Tibet and Mongolia? Tibet is part of China, it has been for hundreds of years. It had a semi-autonomous arrangement, at times, but it's historically part of China, and they have every right to keep it that way.
And what about Mongolia?

I haven't seen any sign that China is now anything like what Germany was. And historically, it's never been expansionist.

[cronus]

Life expectancy for the common people was abysmal in Tibet before the Chinese removed the parasitical religious fuckwits. Now they've even built a modern first class railway to the isolated fucktard state.

[mistermack]

Conditions were atrocious in Tibet, for the majority, before Chinese direct rule.
People were literally bought and sold, in debt for their whole lives. It was only the rich and the religious who had any freedom.

The Dalai Lama is a cunt, and I don't blame them for keeping him out.

[Svartalf]

They are still atrocious for non han...

[cronus]

They are still atrocious for non han...

We've all had a stint at the superman thing...a buzz but it's lonely at the top that way after a while.

[Warren Dew]

The lights will stay on in Blighty. Unless we criticise the Chinese about Tibet. Or anything else. It's been announced that the Chinese will have a stake in the next generation of nuclear power plants in the UK, possibly, eventually, a majority stake. I suppose beggars can't be choosers. Sign of another Great British Failure, we had the world's first civil nuclear power station and now we can neither build nor fund the things ourselves.

What a world - we have to buy oil from despots, gas from despots and soon electricity from despots.

At least theyr'e a benevolent despot.

[Svartalf]

Wait till they decide they want something we don't.

[Warren Dew]

Wait till they decide they want something we don't.

If it's something we don't want, we'd be happy to give it up to them, no?

[Svartalf]

arf, arf, how witty

[JimC]

I sometimes buy things from a benevolent depot...

[mistermack]

China has been keeping the lights on for years. Where do you think the light-bulbs were made?

[klr]

Won't need hiddern hardware, Jim. There'll just be a big switch in Beijing marked "Britain: On/Off"

Knowing the Chinese, it will be marked "Britain: Crisis/Opportunity"

[pErvinalia]

Do interesting men create interesting times, or do interesting times create interesting men? An old philosophical question and not just a simplistic view of history
Anyways, you are still missing the point, the potential is already there in China. Imagine Nazi Germany before the start of WWII, say Hitler died of a heart attack in '39 before invading Poland but after Austria and German Czechoslovakia. The current government of China (Tibet and Mongolia) is not far off from pre-WWII Germany under national socialism. Be wary if someone charismatic like Mao arises in China.

I'm not missing the point. I'm saying it's a crap point. You think you can transfer pre-war German events to modern China.
Why? It simply doesn't follow that because something happened somewhere, the same thing will happen somewhere else.

Even if the situation was almost identical, that still doesn't mean the same thing will happen.

He's not saying it "will" happen, just that it's a higher probability than say the US going Nazi on us. China is aggressively nationalistic and is partaking in cultural genocide in Tibet to shut down dissent. It also claims Taiwan (and a host of smaller Islands in the seas off it's shores).

[piscator]

1. Hans are insufferably chauvinistic and racist. They lack any compassion for animals. They buy First Growth Bordeaux, then mix it with 7UP or Coke. They think nothing of pooping on the sidewalk.
2. I sense allowing the Chinese to invest in Keeping Britain Bright is yet another clever British ploy to Keep China British.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Do interesting men create interesting times, or do interesting times create interesting men? An old philosophical question and not just a simplistic view of history
Anyways, you are still missing the point, the potential is already there in China. Imagine Nazi Germany before the start of WWII, say Hitler died of a heart attack in '39 before invading Poland but after Austria and German Czechoslovakia. The current government of China (Tibet and Mongolia) is not far off from pre-WWII Germany under national socialism. Be wary if someone charismatic like Mao arises in China.

I'm not missing the point. I'm saying it's a crap point. You think you can transfer pre-war German events to modern China.
Why? It simply doesn't follow that because something happened somewhere, the same thing will happen somewhere else.

Even if the situation was almost identical, that still doesn't mean the same thing will happen.

He's not saying it "will" happen, just that it's a higher probability than say the US going Nazi on us. China is aggressively nationalistic and is partaking in cultural genocide in Tibet to shut down dissent. It also claims Taiwan (and a host of smaller Islands in the seas off it's shores).

To be fair, Taiwan also claims sovereignty of China!