Bad news on the US economic front.

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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by cronus » Wed May 15, 2013 3:46 pm

The global economy is inherently unstable with fluctuating commodity prices and exchange rates fully divorced from resource scarcity or productive or consumptional changes. The global economy will crash again. Next time there will be no bailouts, and social and finally population collapse will follow on soon afterwards. It will be impossible to resurrect the modern world amid the social chaos. A new dark age will descend and with climate change there may never be another advanced civilization. Numbers will dwindle, and extinction could follow easily on.
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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 15, 2013 3:56 pm

mistermack wrote:
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rEvolutionist wrote:More seriously, though... How can a deficit be "sustainable over the long run"? :think:
Simple enough. If the deficit is too high we crash. So a low deficit is desirable. According to my macroeconomic instructor at Purdue a zero deficit is not always desirable for reasons I forgot before the test.
Shit, someone better warn the Chinese. They must be heading for the mother of all crashes, with their surplus.

Waste some fuckin money, quick, or else !!
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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Robert_S » Wed May 15, 2013 4:01 pm

If you owe your boss money, it's hard to get fired.
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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by JimC » Wed May 15, 2013 10:57 pm

mistermack wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:More seriously, though... How can a deficit be "sustainable over the long run"? :think:
Simple enough. If the deficit is too high we crash. So a low deficit is desirable. According to my macroeconomic instructor at Purdue a zero deficit is not always desirable for reasons I forgot before the test.
Shit, someone better warn the Chinese. They must be heading for the mother of all crashes, with their surplus.

Waste some fuckin money, quick, or else !!
They should buy more Australian iron ore...
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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by mistermack » Thu May 16, 2013 1:08 pm

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They should buy more Australian iron ore...
Fuck that. Iron ores are as much use as an iron boomerang. My old rowing boat had wooden ores, and THEY were too heavy.

It's all carbon these days.

I wonder if you can get a carbon-fiber boomerang?
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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Trinity » Thu May 16, 2013 2:56 pm

Rum wrote:Fuck off.
seems a bit harsh Rum?
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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Rum » Thu May 16, 2013 3:13 pm

Trinity wrote:
Rum wrote:Fuck off.
seems a bit harsh Rum?
Not really.

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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 16, 2013 3:57 pm

Rum wrote:
Trinity wrote:
Rum wrote:Fuck off.
seems a bit harsh Rum?
Not really.
Agreed.
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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by cronus » Thu May 16, 2013 4:04 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Rum wrote:
Trinity wrote:
Rum wrote:Fuck off.
seems a bit harsh Rum?
Not really.
Agreed.

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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Trinity » Thu May 16, 2013 4:24 pm

I know I'm not here much so forgive my not knowing but it seems that there are a few anti- Scrumpl-ites here. Is this because he's a troll or has committed a heinous faux pas or simply a difference of opinions?

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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 16, 2013 4:41 pm

Trinity wrote:I know I'm not here much so forgive my not knowing but it seems that there are a few anti- Scrumpl-ites here. Is this because he's a troll or has committed a heinous faux pas or simply a difference of opinions?
He's the continually gloomy gus. Gets tedious.
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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Trinity » Thu May 16, 2013 5:18 pm

Sure, but you have a choice! You can react and hurl abuse or ignore and carry on. Quite a few people's views on here piss me off and grate me but I don't tell them as a person to fuck off; like I said, it seems harsh. I know everyone has their tolerance levels- I did reach mine a while ago with someone here but I later apologised as I realised they had every right to voice and share opinions here as do I.

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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Rum » Thu May 16, 2013 5:22 pm

Trinity wrote:Sure, but you have a choice! You can react and hurl abuse or ignore and carry on. Quite a few people's views on here piss me off and grate me but I don't tell them as a person to fuck off; like I said, it seems harsh. I know everyone has their tolerance levels- I did reach mine a while ago with someone here but I later apologised as I realised they had every right to voice and share opinions here as do I.
As you say Trinity, you aren't here all that much. A while back Crumple's posts hung like a shroud over the forum on a several times daily basis. I think 'fuck off' is pretty mild frankly. And it is within the rules as it happens.

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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 16, 2013 5:27 pm

Trinity wrote:Sure, but you have a choice! You can react and hurl abuse or ignore and carry on. Quite a few people's views on here piss me off and grate me but I don't tell them as a person to fuck off; like I said, it seems harsh. I know everyone has their tolerance levels- I did reach mine a while ago with someone here but I later apologised as I realised they had every right to voice and share opinions here as do I.
He has freedom of speech to say what he wants, I have freedom of speech to say that I don't like it. EOF
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Re: Bad news on the US economic front.

Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 16, 2013 11:41 pm

Trinity wrote:I know I'm not here much so forgive my not knowing but it seems that there are a few anti- Scrumpl-ites here. Is this because he's a troll or has committed a heinous faux pas or simply a difference of opinions?
He has a negative view of the world. That's not acceptable to the community standards around here, apparently.
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